FM derivation rules arenu2019t working

Hello All
The FM derivation rules are not working for the transaction codes FMBBC/FMBB/KP06/CJR2 etc Please help me.
Thanks and Regards
Gopa

Hello Gopa,
In KP06, profit center field in not available and therefore PRCTR field is not passed from CO to FM derivation tool. Thus, it is not possible to derive the funds center based on profit center. You have to find other means to derive the Funds Center. The most common why would be to derive Funds Center from Cost Center.
The derivation of FM fields can be called within CO transactions ONLY if CO-FM integration is active for the financial management area. This can be done in the customizing under:
Public sector management
Fund Management Government
Actual and Commitment Update Integration
   Integration
    Integration with Cost and Project Controlling
     Activate Integration with Cost and Project Controlling
You may also check the following:
Public Sector Management
Funds Management Government
Actual and
Commitment Update/Integration
Integration
Integration with Cost and
Project Controlling
Choose Business Transactions for Integration
If you want CO-FM integration active please do not use SAPALL layout.
SAPALL is only relevant if you do not have FM account assignments active.
SAP delivered standard profile for CO-FM integration is SAPFUND (see note 518610).
I hope it helps you.
Best Regards,
Vanessa Barth.

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I am working on profitability analzsis.I have searched in sdn and i am able to create the derivation rule.
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it contains
Source Fields - from where the source field is originatingand the field name
Target fields - contains what is the target field in COPA for the relevant source field.
This field is nothing but the charactiristic.
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I am currently facing an issue with Derivation rule and hope someone can help me on resolving this.
Please look into the below requirement:
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. For simulation .. enetr parameters like order no , company code , plant .. etc and click on derivation .. System will derive the sales mode .. for both the orders . You will be able to find out the differences in characteristics .. which is causing the issue ..
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Hello all,
I have created derivation rules for the Transaction codes KP06 - Change, CJR2 - Change or FMBBC.
However, they arenu2019t working. The rules are working fine in other areas, but not for the above mentioned transactions.
Can you please help in these?
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Hello Gopa,
I believe I have answered the same to you in the Funds Management Forum.
I will copy here again for your convenience.
In KP06, profit center field in not available and therefore PRCTR field is not passed from CO to FM derivation tool. Thus, it is not possible to derive the funds center based on profit center. You have to find other means to derive the Funds Center. The most common why would be to derive Funds Center from Cost Center.
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Public sector management
Fund Management Government
Actual and Commitment Update Integration
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Public Sector Management
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Actual and
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Project Controlling
Choose Business Transactions for Integration
If you want CO-FM integration active please do not use SAPALL layout.
SAPALL is only relevant if you do not have FM account assignments active.
SAP delivered standard profile for CO-FM integration is SAPFUND (see note 518610).
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For actual/commitment postings you use FMDERIVE transaction.
For budget postings you should use FMCUDERIVSUB transaction.
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Edited by: R Rao on Sep 22, 2008 4:03 PM

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I have also taken screen-shots and uploaded them, please view in order.
Derivation Rule
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o23/zkage/Deriv1.jpg
Document Posting(Deriv rule not picked even order is placed)
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o23/zkage/deriv2.jpg
The PA segment before pressing enter or the button derivation
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o23/zkage/deriv4.jpg
The PA segment after pressing the button
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o23/zkage/deriv3.jpg
We require that the derivation runs in the background after we enter the line item details. The system is not picking the derivation if we directly post the document without checking the PA segment.
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