FM DERIVATION STRATEGY

Hello Guru's,
I am presently configuring public sector accounting for my client, can anyone advice me the best way to derive plant maintenance work order and business area assigned to cost centres. I have done my cost centre to cost centre derivation.
Thank you

Hi,
I don't quite understand your question... I showed you the way to read the data from your PM order in order to get FM objects derived. I also pointed out that if your cost centres are linked to business areas, business area will appear in FMDERIVE structure and you can base a rule on this info if you want. If your PM order is linked to a cost centre, then you will have the full chain of information flowing to FMDERIVE. Just don't forget to activate integration between PSM-FM and PM.
Regards,
Eli

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I am trying add the Partner field (Forwarding Agent) to the derivation Strategy from the Invoice and not from the Sales Order.
I was able to find the Forwarding Agent field in PAPARTNER Table. So I created the field in KEA5, update the structure of Operating Concern with this field.
But I am looking for the table (not VBPA) which has the Invoice details where I can add that in the Derviation Strategy. Do we have any table?
Please let me know if I need to use the enhancement to acheive this (Could you please give the steps to do this?).
Thank you,
-Harter.

Hi Ajay,
Couple of questions
1. How do I identify which field (table) has this value (Forwarding agent), so that I can create the WWXXX field. I found SPDNR from PAPARTNER table but I am not sure if that is the right table and the right field to create Characteristic on this field. So could you please tell me what is process to find the right table where the Forwarding Agent value is updated in the billing documents?
2. I could not find the KDAUF field in the enhancement Source fields but I was able to find the ARTNR field, my question is why we have to make ARTNR as Source field and the WWXXX or SPDNR (in this case) will be Target field? Does that need to be other way round? Sorry for my ignorance.
Thank you for all your help.
-Harter.

Define Derivation Strategy for Reassignment

Dear All!
I have created the derivation strategy for Reassignment with tthe option of derivation rule
Source Fields
SOURCE_FUND
SOURCE_FUNDS_CENTER
BCS_BUDGET_CATEGORY
NUMBER
Target Fields
TARGET_FUND
TARGET_FUNDS_CENTER
PERCENTAGE
the abover derivation assigned to FM & maitain Rule value in the following way.
 Source Filed
SOURCE_FUND : 11000
SOURCE_FUNDS_CENTER: 89000
BCS_BUDGET_CATEGORY: 9F
NUMBER : 1
Target Field
TARGET_FUND : 11000
TARGET_FUNDS_CENTER: 55000
PERCENTAGE: 30%
b] Source Filed
SOURCE_FUND : 11000
SOURCE_FUNDS_CENTER: 89000
BCS_BUDGET_CATEGORY: 9F
NUMBER : 2
Target Field
TARGET_FUND : 11000
TARGET_FUNDS_CENTER: 44000
PERCENTAGE: 70 %
As I carryforward the residual budget, system only consider the 30 & 70% , create line item with that percentage. but can not read the traget fund center. system pick the source fund center 89000 instead of 44000 & 55000
please advise why not system pick the target fund center, it only consider the %.
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Derivation Strategy for billing types - Post activation in KE4W

Dear Friends,
I recently activated KE4W for billing types S2, Credit Notes & Debit notes.
This is for restricting the COGS flow to CO for these billing types.
Now when i am releasing the sales document to accounting - Its asking to maintain derivation strategy.... KEDR for all the billing types.
From my previous implementations i have never maintained KEDR for billing types... as it is suppose to be on a standard derivation strategy.
How can i go about resolving this.
Do i at all need to maintain KEDR for billing types.. or is this error because of something else..
Thanks in advance
Vikrant Sood.

HI,
normally KE4W (reset CO-PA value fields) does not require any KEDR-steps.
I suggest to make a test derivation within KEDR to identify the step(s) where the message occurs.
Maybe also T-Code KECM is helpful (Overview of derivation, characteristic derivation) to see if the billing type is used as a key field,...
Best regards, Christian

Derivation Strategy year specific ?

HI,
In FM I have two Derivation Strategy, because i am moving from Former to BCS,
for swich over period and for adjustment I need to maintain old as well new Derivation strategy in System,
How I maintain it year specific? Or is there any other option to control both ?
So that there will be no clash between 02 Der Strategy?
Because i am swiching to BCS from 01 period of coming new Fiscal year.
Thanks
Nilesh

Hi,
Create a new derivation rule with valid from date as 01.04.2010, which will limit the earlier derivation rule till 31.03.2010 automatically
Until and unless you maintain the next derivation rule with a future date, the 2nd rule will be valid from 01.04.2010.
Thanks,
Srinu

Derivation strategy for each regional office

Hi All,
We activated Budget Availability control at Head Quarters. One of regional office is not having budget so they dont want budget control. If i am not entering budget in FMBB transaction then system throwing error for regional office. How i can do control exception for particular regional office. We are maintaining one company code for all Regional offices.
Regards,
sree

Hello,
Is ot possible for you to identify the regional office based on the budget address?
If yes, you should create a specific tolerance profile without any AVC control (100% tolerance, no warning, no error message) ; in addition to the tolerance profile you already defined with controls.
You can use a derivation strategy for tolerance profiles ( target field as TOLPROF) : if the posting is done for the regional office, the derivation strategy for tolerance profile will call the tolerance profile without any control and no messages will be sent to the user.
I hop it helps.
Helene

Derivation Strategy for Budget Addresses

Hi, we are using budget structure and have created a derivation strategy rule to define the assignments of posting addresses to budget
addresses. May I know what is the table names where all rule values are stored so that we can extract all the information stored to be use in customised program. Is there any function module that can be use to extract all the maintain values? Please assist. Thanks. Vincent

Hi,
The tables are dynamic, i.e. they are created with a generation of the rule. You can view the name of the tables by going to the derivation strategy transaction, then Menu - Extras - Overview. You will see all the relevant tables. There is no standard function to extract the values from these tables, but you can easily create your own.
Regards,
Eli

Derivation Strategy for PO retention Scenario

Dear Expert,
Dystem is showing an error Document line item 000 contains no clearing information when we try to post invoice in MIRO for retention PO.
Can you please suggest the appropriate derivation strategy for PO retention case ?
What should be the commitment item for retention GL account ?
If we use it as real commitment item for Retention GL account, it will post to other Commitment item which will not depict the correct result of Fund utilization.
Regards,
Prad Pat

Dear Eli,
We have implemented notes 2097766 on Dev client as part of program error but issue still remained. So as per note 171883 we have customized the message FICUSTOM100 9 (from error to warning) in transaction OBA5 for online posting. Now there is no error and document posted succesfully. Also we have also posted all payments including retention amount, system shows correct payment history in the FM documents.
Do we need to implement note 2097766 as the program error mention in this note ?
Regards,
Prad Pat

Define Derivation Strategy for Control Objects - Value Not Transport

I created Rules Value in Define Derivation Strategy for Control Objects (SPRO). Then, I perform the below steps for Transport the Request to other client.
1. Select Derivation Strategy name, Table View > Transport
2. Select Request Number
3. Click Include in Request, then save
4. Go to the Steps in Logical Order, Extras > Transport
5. Select Request Number and back to SPRO screen
After SCC1, there is only Derivation Strategy Name appeared but the rules value (Steps in Logical Order) is not appeared.
How can I transport the Rule Value?
Regards
Ton

Hi,
When you are in the derivation transaction and select to transport it, the system asks you whether you want the values to be transported as well. If you choose 'yes' your change request will include this information.
Regards,
Eli

Entry payment request derivation strategy BL Account

Hello FM experts,
When I try to post an entry payment request the system shows me an error message which informs that I have to customize the derivation strategy BL account. I don´t know why I have to customize that customizing point because I already have customized the account determination for request and the systems seems that is working properly because it shows me the G/L account.
ok, I have customized the derivation strategy for BL account concerning budget ledger as the systems indicates me in the error message as this way:
Value type 54 and 60, commitment item and the general ledger account.
So at this moment I have customized the account determination for request and the derivation in the budgetary ledger. (transactions F850 and FMBLEXT)
The system does not work properly again and the error message is the same.
Note: I have activated the variant for budgetary level as 20: Spain.
Thank you very much in advance for all your help.
Ruben Lopez

Hello Mar,
This is the message:
Falta entrada Customizing p.ledger presupuestario
Nº mensaje: FMBLEXT001
Diagnóstico
Las parametrizaciones Customizing no se han definido correctamente.
Actividades en el sistema
El proceso se detiene.
Procedimiento
Verifique las parametrizaciones para la operación de contabilización en
    la actividad IMG Definir estrategia de derivación para cuentas LP.
IN ENGLISH:
Customizing entry missing for Budgetary Ledger
Message no. FMBLEXT001
Diagnosis
Customizing settings have not been properly defined.
System Response
Processing stops.
Procedure
Revise the Customizing for the posting process in the IMG activity
    Define Derivation Strategy for BL Accounts.
Thank you Mar for your time and effor.
Ruben

Derivation strategy issue

Dear Sapgurus
i create one derivation rule t codes is fmderiver in 100 client, for testing we copy transport request to 120, if i check rule in 100 tcode is fmderive system its showing which i have created, in 120 if i check fmderive system its not showing which i have created and transport request is successfully completed.
Regards
Raju

Hi,
When you create a transport in FMDERIVE, the system shows a pop-up window asking if you want to transfer also the values of the rules. If you choose 'yes', the values will be transported. Go to FMDERIVE, enter to your strategy, then Menu - Extras - Transport and generate a new transport, this time with values.
Regards,
Eli

FM structure and derivation strategy

Hi,
I make commitment item hierarchy in Funds Management.
Our customer want to divide all the expenditure commitment items on direct and indirect expenditure.
So we have, for example, the same item u201CHR expenditureu201D in two sections u201Cdirect expenditureu201D and u201Cindirect expenditureu201D.
As usual one commitment item is matched with one G/L account. But here originally the G/L account u201CHR expenditureu201D for posting is the same for both items.
Can anyone tell, if itu2019s possible to leave field u201CCommitment itemu201D blank in a G/L account?
I want to make two different commitment items. And depending on other account assignments (cost center, for example), derive one or another commitment items when posting?
Best wishes
Irina

Hi Ira,
First of all it's possible. Further, the logic of derivation of FM address is looking first on the master data, but then eventually goes to FMDERIVE framewrok, where you can create a rule to overwrite the previously defined values for FM objects.
Regards,
Eli

How to derive Budget Period from Delivery date in PR/PO

Hello Gurus,
I have activated the Budget Period functionality in FM (BCS). I am deriving the budget period from Posting date but in case of PR/PO I want to derive it from Delivery date instead of Document/Posting Date.I know it is not possible while standard derivation. Could any one help me with some suggestion like if I can use some exit/BaDI in MM. Also I am creating a PM order and at the time of release of PM order system creates the PR in background hence I need to know some kind of exit/BADI which can be called to update the Budget Period field in PR.
Thanks in Advance!
Regards
Rohit Goel

Hello Eli,
I have one more query to ask on the above scenario.
The scenario is my delivery date in PO is say July but I did good issue in May hence the Budget Period should be May and not july in my GR and IV.
Now when I am doing GR in May then system is showing the Budget Period as July in GR document but in FM Document it is populating as May. I have defined a derivation strategy to derive budget period from posting date so may be because of that.
But when I am doing IV then it is again moving the amount from May to July. It may be right behaviour that system is deriving all the account assignment from Source document but is there any way to overwrite.
I have defined the derivation strategy with the condition that overwrite with new value if already written (Deriving from Posting Date to Budget Period).
Please guide me on this if possible.
Thanks in Advance
Regards
Rohit

COPA-Characteristic Derivation

hi
i created a character to capture vessel name which is stored in billing under Customer PO number. For the i created Table Look Up like Origin Table is VBKD and field is BSTKD and Target filed is WWVSL which i created. But while releasing the billing document, i am getting error as mentioned below:
Error occurred during table access. See long text
Message no. K/112
CO-PA Characteristic Derivation
Diagnosis
Step 0027 Table lookup for vessel name
While executing this table lookup, the system could not find an entry for the specified source values in table VBKD.
This derivation step is defined so that an error message is displayed when this occurs.
Table VBKD lacks entries for the following source values:
Sales Order Number/Item Number in Sales Order
214/10
Procedure
Make an entry in table VBKD for the specified source values.
If you do not want derivation to be performed in every instance, change the derivation step so that no error message is displayed if no entry exists.
Maintain derivation strategy
If any one know how to solve this error, pls let me know.
i will assign good points.
thanks

Hi There
Go to KEDR and double click on that derivation step .
You will see three tabs there ( Definition , Condition Attribute )
Go to attributes and uncheck the issue error message box.
Thanks,
Reddy

GR/IR - Commitment item derivation

Hi everyone,
In our case (ECC 6) the GL acct number and CI number are always the same. However, when i look at a couple documents that have GR/IR posting, the GL account and commitment item are different. I cannot see any possible derivation rule that can possibly cause this. I did see other discussions in this forum about a 'fmderive-bypass' for GR / IR transactions. Can someone explain in more detail what this is and if it is relevant in my scenario? Secondly if if GR/IR GL account 123 derives commiitment item 456 (instead of CI 123), then wher exactly is this set? what setting do i need to look into to find out where and why this is happening?
Thank you,

Hi ,
As per the issue that you are facing , you have defined the same commitment item for same GL A/c .
The possible reasons for the same are the derivation rules that you have defined in FMDERIVER .
Kindly check the derivation strategy that you have defined - FMDERIVE .
Secondly check the relevant GL A/c what is the commitment item that you have enterd there .
For having a check on how the derivation is taking place during the transaction , you can always activate the trace and see how the commitment items are getting populated .
for activating the trace do the following : go to FMDERIVE - double click the relevant derivation strategy - click on the test button and in the bottom u will see an option for trace activate that and you will find that a green signal is populate at the right end corner .
do take care to check the transaction from the same user ID where in you have activated the trace .
Cheers ,
Dewang

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