Focus point of photo in Lightroom

Does lightroom 4.4 have a menu selection to show where the camera was focused at the time of the shot?

Not at this time.

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Focus point. Display in Lightroom 4.4 64Bit Canon 7D RAW file.

By accident a while ago I saw the focus point displayed on the library photo in Lightroom. This was useful for quick elimination of slightly out of focus shots. It can be shown in camera on the preview. Any ideas?

Keith_Reeder wrote:
Someone was working on a plug-in that would import this functionality, but that project seems to have died a death a couple of years back.
It's been resurrected, by a different author:
http://www.lightroomfocuspointsplugin.com/

Viewing selected focus points from RAW file in Lr5 ?

Why doesn't Lightroom have a plugin or option available to view the focus points that were used in the original photo?
The info is stored in the metadata and shows up for in-camera photo review but it does not show up after .nef file is converted to .dng in Lightroom. This is a very useful tool that could easily be implemented in a future Lightroom upgrade.

elie-d wrote:
Might be a good area for a third-party plugin (hint, hint).
Luc Renambot had a working prototype (on Mac, for one model at least - maybe more) but never reached the finish line for some reason.
PS - exiftool can decode focus point info for most cameras, so it's not a matter of difficult-to-acquire or missing info.
Maybe just not quite enough bang for buck - dunno.
Work-around for mean time (Nikon example) - keep ViewNX open and invoke script to open file in ViewNX if you wanna view focus point(s) - examples:
Simple Lightroom script:
no plugin required, but if you prefer plugin:
One keystroke sequence and you're there - focus points a-blazin'..
Also, ExifMeta makes focus points available for lib filters and/or smart collections - all cameras (supports custom decoding in case you want to create a text pattern which mirrors graphical representation, or just make it easier to read..).
Not as convenient as you'd like - I know...
~R.

Show focus points in lightroom

I have Canon DSLRs and the EXIF metadata clearly contains the focal points that the camera focused on (I can see it with Canon Digital Photo Profiessional)
I'd like to have the same view in Lightroom, i.e. Lightroom gives me a "viewfinder-like" overlay that shows the focal points which the camera was using.

That query shows no results (for me).
This one shows other messages with focus points in their text:
https://forums.adobe.com/search.jspa?q=focus+points

Display focus points in Lightroom

I don't know for all cameras but for my Canons the raw file includes data about the focus points achieved. Digital Photo Professional will display these, which is extremely useful for figuring out why your photo is so fuzzy. Going out to DPP is a pain though. It would be useful to be able to toggle focus point display (probably for raw files only) in Develop and Library views - especially if subject distance (=focus distance) is also displayed per my previous post.

"hint: build a cheat sheet for Lightroom using your camera manufacturer software"
Huh? What is a cheat sheet? And how could I use my manufacturer soft ware to build such a thing?
I could scroogle on "Vaporware" but "Cheat sheet" did not give me any decent clue.

Displaying focus points in LR3

Hi all
Is it possible to display focus points in Lightroom? I switched to Lightroom from Aperture, which used to let me do this, so I guess the information must be stored in the EXIF data somewhere.
Many thanks

The focus points are in the metadata, and can be made available in Lightroom via ExifMeta. You will have to learn where AF-point "C6" lies on your photos, by comparing metadata with focus point display using your camera software, until you make a cheat sheet or memorize it. But, it may be good enough until the super-groovy AF point displayer plugin is ready...
Rob

Focus Points

Is there any way of aesthetically changing the points that display non-focus areas to a light grey instead of red. Or better yet increase the intensity of the points that are in focus.
Have Ape

Well you should obviously see that the photo was recomposed, because you see the photo :-P
I'm thinking of the situation where you're importing older archived shots from several years ago - I've just recently finished importing shots dating back to 2001. I'm pretty certain there could easily be shots in which it might not be obvious that that you'e recomposed after setting the focus.
If the AF point is a selected point and is off in the sky but your subject is in focus, you could probably draw the conclusion.
Agreed - that would be an easy one to judge. But your landscape shot might be composed of the near foreground through to distant rolling hills - and little or no sky. So if the focus point appears in the middle, was the shot focussed on the the boulders 10' ahead to the left or the bushes 30' off to the right - or in the middle?
But what you're asking isn't really possible
I wasn't asking for it - I realised long ago the impossibility of dependably recording this info in every situation. I was merely pointing out that the possibility existed.
Regards,
Gary

Focus points not showing for Nex 7 images in Aperture.

Whilst it's good that Aperture now supports my Nex 7, I've noticed that focus points don't show and the option in the metadata tab isn't even there with my Nex photos. It's still available for other cameras though. Anyone else with the same problem. Or do I have to wait for another update. Any comments welcome as it is a feature I use in post processing.
Thanks
John

If you have a tool that lets you look at the EXIF data in the image file you could check to see if this is in facr true.
The entries you are looking for are the ones that start with AF, there are a few such as AF points in focus and AF points selected. There is also two AF entries that have a series of x and y positions. Those are the auto focus points. If there in there then Aperture should be abel to display them.
The EXIF tool I use is Exiftool. It's command line so thakes some getting use to but it is definitly worth having on your system.
reegards

Focus points in Lr 5

I come from Apple Aperture, after switching to LR5 I have hardly looked back. however two things I miss every day. the ability to display the active focus points, it can be done, it works fine in Aperture. And I miss a magnifying glass so you can quickly spot check a photo without having to enlarge the entire image.
Add the two things, and LR is the best RAW converter there is.
regards Henrik

HenrikP wrote:
I miss a magnifying glass so you can quickly spot check a photo without having to enlarge the entire image.
Maybe not as nice as Aperture's (?) - you have to be in develop module to use it, but there is magnified view for spot-checking in the detail section - click the oobey-goobie.. (see red box):
I used to use that alot, but more often now I just zoom in and move the rectangle in navigator around - which you can do in library module too.
Rob

Show focus points not available

My pictures used to all have the option of showing the focus points in Aperture. I would click on the icon for focus points to toggle it on and off.
Starting last year the icon for the focus points is not even there under the Info tab (same camera and lenses). i just received a new camera body but same lenses.
Pictures still do not have the icon for Focus Points. Going to the menu and choosing "show focus points" does no good because the icon is not there (but the icon for jpeg/raw, metering, and wb are there). if i go to some old pictures the icon is there for the old pictures.
i re-downloaded the program, trashed the preference files, etc.
Camera- Canon 40D, Canon 7D mii. Lenses CAnon 17-55 f/2.8 and Canon 70-200 f/4, non IS.
Any help would be appreciated.
Terry

I just checked one of my photos in Aperture for you..... it is the only reason I've kept aperture to be honest! Mine still works on my raw photo which is from a 5dmiii. I'm in the process tho of moving all my photos to external hard drives and only keeping current photos on laptop due to storage issues. I'm also switching to Bridge, ACR and PSCC. But when I open projects from Aperture off of hard drive I get a message that says I need to upgrade library and opens in Aperture. I don't want to be bound to Aperture anymore. What if I don't have Aperture on next Mac? So not how do I get my photos unhostaged? Sorry about rant.... just very frustrated if I have to go through some long drawn out process to get this straightened out.

Metadata - Canon Focus Points : can LR show them ?

I shoot using Canon 400D and also have Canon's Zoombrowser software. One thing that Zoombrowser does that I use occasionally is to show the auto-focus points active for a given shot.
Is there anyway to get Lightroom to show the focus points in a similar manner ?
I'm guessing there probably isn't, I can't see that info' anywhere in the metadata using Exiftool so I presume it's in a private Canon data area. Just thought I'd check that there's not a switch I'm missing somewhere.
Cheers

The QCC wrote:
Just for the record, the AF point is stored in the EXIF data area for Canon EOS cameras.
And over there for Nikon, and over there for Pentax, except that the Pentax bodies also have to change this based on the lens mounted, so the metadata is in at least two places...

Whats the point of Photos if you don't use the cloud?

I find iPhoto useful as quick reference library for my images. Most of the time I use Lightroom & Photoshop, but iPhoto and Aperture have their uses. Given my experience of the apallingly poor (virtually non-existant) synchronisation using iCloud with Pages, Numbers and Keynote that I have experienced over the past few months despite repeatably checking that I have the latest versions etc. I will NEVER store my images on someone else's servers. To that end, what is the point of Photos?
I own a number of 2TB & 3TB hard drives which store my images and backup reliably and which I have already paid for. Why would I want to pay Apple to store yet more copies and suffer the inevitable loss of control over retrieving them, which is what I have experienced with Pages, Numbers and Keynote.
As regards synchronising with all my devices - no thanks. I can easily copy images to my iPad via iTunes. No doubt Apple will remove this option at some point to force us to rent space on the Cloud. When that happens I will abandon Apple totally. You have been warned Apple execs!

What I don't understand is your comment that you use iPhoto as a quick reference library for your photos? Why would you not use Lightroom for that purpose - a much better photo management tool than iPhoto is.
As to why you would use Photos - again it would depend on your answer to the above question. The same way you import your photos into iPhoto you can import them into Photos and use it as a "quick reference tool". And you don't have to enable iCloud Photo Library, just keep your photos on your own computer/drives. I don't use iPhoto (my wife did) and I used Aperture and Pixelmator (a Photoshop-lite alternative). I plan on using Photos (and the iCloud Photo Library) to the photos that my wife and I take with our iPhones (and the ones we decide to save from Facebook) mainly. I occasionally will add some photos from Aperture (or Lightroom when I get around to migrating to that from Aperture) that my wife wants access to.

Will editing a smart object affect my photo in Lightroom too?

So I am used to Lightroom after 6 months and I started to use Photoshop CC.
1) After editing in Lightroom I edit my photo as Smart Object in Photoshop CC.
2) When I'm finished and save this as a .PSD, will this affect the photo in Lightroom too?
Will my photo in Lightroom be affected by using Camera RAW?
Will my photo in Lightroom be affected by using adjustment layers and filters?
For now I know that Smart Object are non-destructive, but I just don't know if they change the edit I made in Lightroom.

If you open the image as a Smart Object from Lightroom, the image will be sent to Photoshop as a Tiff file. If you double click that layer it will open in Camera Raw, but all the settings will be their defaults because as far as Camera Raw is concerned, this is a brand new image. None of the changes made will affect the RAW changes you made in Lightroom since you are now effectively working on a copy of the original image.
It's a bit more complicated if you open the image from Bridge. Bridge sends the original RAW file to Photoshop when you ask Camera Raw. If you double click the smart object, all the Camera Raw settings will be set just as they were when you opened it from bridge. At this point, any changes you make WILL be reflected in the original RAW file right up until you save the file in Photoshop. Once Photoshop has saved the image, changes made to the Smart Object will no longer show up in the RAW file if you re-open it in Bridge or Lightroom.
Once you have saved a file in Photoshop opened from Bridge, it works the same as Lightroom with one important exception. Opening from Bridge retains all the settings you made, so you can undo them (without affecting the original image). If you open the image from Lightroom, you can no longer undo the settings made in Lightroom from within Photoshop without starting all over. So for example, if you set the image to +10 exposure, open it from Lightroom and then open the Smart Object, ACR will show the exposure as 0. You could make it -10 to compensate, but you will lose information in the photo. From Bridge, if you open the Smart Object, ACR will show the exposure as +10 so you can undo it with no loss of information.

Importing and organizing photo files lightroom 5 for the first time. Clean up hard drive photo files

I have a trial version of lightroom 5 and would like once and forall to bring some order to both my hard drives and lightroom 5 collection. Some photos in lightroom 5 seem to have lost their path. some are in Window 7 folders and others are in Elements 9. I have made back up copies of some folders and would like to have a more systematic approach to back them up from now on. I have a NAS (network access storage) device and an extra hard drive I thought it would be best to use my laptop as the primary working memory for my photo files as it would be faster than working with the NAS or external, and then back everything up to the NAS and external. I see the main challenge as consolidating all of the files and whereever possible preserving the ratings I have given photos; I would like to eliminate duplicats. on both the hard drive and in lightroom. i have looked at one of the initial training vidios on the 'library' section of adobe help and the presenter talked of two methods of importing photos,. the first and the one I think I will use going forward is to open lightroom and import from the sd card directly as opposed to having Windows 7 import and then having lightroom find them. If someone kows of a comprehensive list of instructions to follow to clean up my hard drives that would be extremly helpful? Peter

I doubt there is a list of instructions to clean up a hard drive, because every starting sitaution is different, and your "clean" is probably a lot different than my "clean".
But let's clear up a few things first. Based on your writing, it seems like you think you have photos stored in PSE and photos stored in LR. This is not correct. Neither of these programs store your photos. All of your photos are on your hard disk, in folders, somewhere.
With regards to missing photos in Lightroom, when you move or rename photos and folders OUTSIDE of Lightroom, Lightroom no longer knows where they are, and reports them as missing. To fix it, see: http://www.computer-darkroom.com/lr2_find_folder/find-folder.htm Related to this, you don't want to "clean up" things in Windows and also "clean things" up in Lightroom. Instead, once you import photos into Lightroom, you should do all photo management in Lightroom, not Windows, otherwise you will just be creating more missing files.
With regards to duplicates, Lightroom has some tools to detect duplicates. It will try to prevent duplicates on import, and if you do manage to import duplicates, you can use the "AutoStack by Capture Time" to try to find additional duplicates. But if those don't work, then you're pretty much on your own.
With regards to putting photos on your laptop to work on them rather than your external HD, I think you will find that this provides a tiny fraction of a second improvement in speed which you may not even notice, which will be offset by the time you spend moving photos to somewhere else when you are done. So, just put the photos in their final destination folder on your external HD or NAS, and don't bother moving them to the internal HD.
Which brings up another point. Once you have accomplished this "clean up", your workflow should be to put the photos in one place, and then don't move them! (Exception: running out of space on disk, or moving to a new disk/computer) Make your life as simple as possible.
One last point: strongly consider using keywords and other metadata to achieve organization, instead of moving photos/folders from here to there to achieve organization. These tools in Lightroom give you ability to organize in much more powerful and flexible organization than anything you can do by moving photos/folders from here to there. (Side note: if you want all photos in some sort of centralized location because it meets your storage needs, then do that because it meets your storage needs. Within that collection of photos in a centralized location, use keywords and other metadata to achieve organization and for searching)

Looking at FOCUS POINTS changes Time and Date

When I select VIEW FOCUS POINTS it changes the Time and Date information in the Metadata. I have seen it happen twice now. The images were taken with a Nikon D90 while in Australia. The first time that I noticed this I was in Hawaii and just looking at the FOCUS POINTS changed the Date and Time to Hawaii time. It happened again in Maryland and the time zone was changed to Eastern Daylight Time. To put the images back in the proper place I have had to change the DATE and TIME.
Has anyone seen this?
Roger

Thanks Tony,
Did you try this:
Shoot a photo with your camera set to your local time.
Import into your Mac set to the same local time.
Quit Aperture
Restart
Set the time on your Mac to another time zone.
Open Aperture.
Open the photo.
View the Focus Points
Then see if the time metadata is changed.
Mine changes and the place of the photo in the line-up of my folder changes.
It still does it after I updated to Aperture 3.0.3 from the 3.0
I know this is a lot of steps in the test process, but this is how it happens for me.
If this doesn't work I'll have to look into a new Nikon for you and a flight to Hawaii.
Cheers,
Roger

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