Follow up Material (different BUoM)

Dear Experts,
We have a discontinuation setup here. The PM1 will be replaced by PM2. PM1 (sticker) has PCE as BUoM, while PM2 (Tape) has ROL in BUoM. I tried putting the material as Followup, but system would not allow since they both have different BUoM.
Please help. Thanks!

Dear,
The base unit of measure of the follow-up material is the same as the base unit of measure of the discontinued material.
But try this:
You can use follow-up setting (set PM2 as follow-up of PM1 in MRP 4 view of material master if this follow-up scenario is valid for all BOM) with discontinuation indicator '1', w/o effective-out date. In this case PM1's stock will run out (no PldOrd, PR, etc) will be created, and from the date, when PM1's stock runs out, MRP will calculate with PM2.
As I told you, according to my best knowledge, you cannot realize this with different base unit of measures. (you have to change the BUOM of one of the related material masters or create a new material master if you cannot cope with BUOM-change).
Check this and revert back.
Regards,
Alok Tiwari

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Hello Peter,
You can use follow-up setting (set Mat2 as follow-up of Mat1 in MRP 4 view of material master if this follow-up scenario is valid for all BOM) with discontinuation indicator '1', w/o effective-out date. In this case Mat1's stock will run out (no PldOrd, PR, etc) will be created, and from the date, when Mat1's stock runs out, MRP will calculate with Mat2.
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Follow-up group scenario can also be used but I guess different buoms will be a problem in that case as well.
Maybe there are better solution but I'm not aware of it...
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Our client have a requirement for multi lvel follow up material in BOM.
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if material B is depleted then used material C
if A and B have stock used A(higher priority)
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Is there any solution for this?
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Fred

Hi anyway I tested the BOM master data like this
F/G 1 Master Box
|--- A 10 PCS Alt Group Z1 Priority 1 Usage 100% Strategy 2 (100% Check)
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stock C enough
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F/G 1 Master Box
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I gave solution for set delete flag for this material so that when create BOM or PO error happens.
But client want to use discontinue material in material master view MRP4, so that he can enter the last date when this material is out of use.
Will discontinue material in material master view MRP4 can meet this requirement? enter discontinuation indicator and date then after this date will not create BOM or PO.

As per my understanding discontinuation is related only to MRP (how system handles requirements).
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/b1/c044d1439a11d189410000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
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Hi
Pl ensure that the Following requirements have been met before you can use the discontinuation functionality:
1) Both materials must be planned using MRP.
2) The base unit of measure of the follow-up material must be the same as the base unit of measure of the discontinued material.
3) You must enter discontinuation data for the discontinued item and follow-up data for the follow-up item.
and Also refer the SAP link for Complete Details
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_45b/helpdata/en/b1/c044d1439a11d189410000e829fbbd/content.htm
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Full BOM component qty when follow-up material is effected.

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 How to ensure discontinuation / follow-up is implemented on FULL BOM's
 component qty, and not partial.
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Dear Pradeep, Rajesha & all,
 Assume BOM of "A" indicates component B qty 10 is follow-up with component C qty 10.
 Material B (say, balance 1 qty) is received into Store Y (MRP Relevant). Thus to exclude material B from MRP, we have to manually transfer stock to store X (Not MRP Relevant).
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I have used before this function having a follow up material with indicator 1 and effective-out date. However, this time I have 3 materials A, B, C.
The logic I want to use is the following but I'm not sure if SAP supports this:
A = discontinue material and B = Follow-up material. Using indicator 1
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Hi,
[Kindly check this link |http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/a0/1016bd4c8311d189520000e829fbbd/frameset.htm] which has information of the below.
Alternative item group
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dsk

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I am facing the strange issue for which i need your expertise. The requirement is like:
1. "X" material is discontinued and "Y" is as follow-up in two plants A & B. Discontinaution group and follow-up group has also been assigned in the BOM.
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You have entered a follow-up material. However, the BOM explosion for the follow-up material leads to the discontinued material, resulting in unpermissible recursiveness.
Procedure
Enter another follow-up material or cancel the entry.
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Check the following :
1.Validity of the Bill Of Material or any deletion flag is set in the present BOM.
2.Please check the following SAP notes :
Note 161742 - Consulting note: BOM recursion/low-level code 999
Note 839879 - Trace 'BOM is recursive'
Note 139517 - Recursiveness for follow-up materials
Note 42891 - Recursiveness check
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refer to the below link, it should answer your query:
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 Manage to solve the problem via Note 1008643, per following.
 THANK YOU for all your guidance & Have a nice day !
NOTE 1008643 :Symptom
In a production order error message CKBK-009 is raised during cost calculation.
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Other terms
CKBK009, CO01, CO02, CO03
Reason and Prerequisites
System design
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Hi anyway I tested the BOM master data like this
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