FON & openzone on HomeHub

I logged into my router today to discover that FON had been enabled on my router. (It wasnt on day of install)
But i also didnt see any bt openzone hotspots/FON hotspots in my wifi list of available networks. So if FON is turned on, how do people connect to my network? My main wirless is WPA2/PSK encrypted, so nobody could connect to that.
Also what if someone connects to my FON/openzone and does something nefarious, am i responsible? Sure, BT says its tunnelled traffic, but I'm still the gateway, so if someone is on P2P My IP will be the one which shows up in logs.

Your network is safe the fon connection is not encrypted but does need to be logged into by the user who must have signed up to fon also that identifies them on that connection so no you are NOT responsible for any user on fon the connection also uses a separate wireless channel to your own network
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Does BT Fon/Openzone work with an ipod touch gen 1...

Hi,
I am a BT Infinity customer and have opted in to BT Fon. I cannot get my ipod touch gen 1 to work with a BT Fon or Openzone network. I can connect to my BT home hub as well as various friends' networks but for some reason I can't get the BT Fon/BT Openzone to work. It sees the network and in Settings-->Wi-Fi Networks I have deleted the initial 10.xx.xx.xx entry (leaving the "192.168.22.22, 192.168.22.23" with no leading space) and it says it has connected. When I go into Safari and try and enter any URL it says "connecting..." but I do not get the landing page (to enter my details) and it eventually times-out with a "Cannot open Page. Safari could not open the page because the server stopped responding" message. This even happens when I try and use the BT Fon part of my home hub!
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Well, I've tried various networks and various settings and I simply cannot get the ipod touch to work with BT Fon/Openzone.
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Hi,
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there is no way you can force whoever the owner of the hub is to reset just so you can access their BTFON. I'm surprised that if it is a big flat complex that there are not more BTFON wifi signals than just this one
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Bt Wifi/Fon/Openzone/Roaming clarification

Hi All,
I just recently got Infinity 2 and HH3 and I want to clarify how the free Bt Wifi works that I get as part of my subscription.
Ther terminology and wording seems a bit different in various places so I wanted to check if someone here can give an official answer.
I undertsand there are 3 types of BT Wifi points:
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sjtp wrote:
There is an allowable cheat if you want to use the free service but don't want others using your broadband via BT-Fon. You can replace the HomeHub with a different router that does not support BT-Fon. Always strikes me as slightly anti-social, but ...
I doubt anyone has ever used my Broadband via Fon other than me in a test. I've certainly never seen any impact. I have heard that the download a BT-Fon user can use is quite limited, but that in theory they can use lots of upload.
using another router to receive your broadband is not a cheat just in many cases including my own a better way to improve my connection and maintain a stable line. I get the benefit of BTWIFI when out and about but I do not benfit like many that use there own BTWIFI connection if they are about to exceed their usage limit
Both are acceptable and are not a cheat
you cannot connect to openzone when outside the UK with your free BTFON
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HP PAVILION G6 CONNECTS TO BT FON/OPENZONE BUT NOT...

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it is not the wireless drivers you are having a problem with you need to remove all shown wireless networks from the laptop then let windows find the networks again when you see your hubs ssid then click on it then enter the encryption code just ensure you delete any other connections
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Multiple users on fon openzone

Hi can all my family connect to FON or openzone when out and about at the same time?
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You would all have to use the same one as the primary e-mail address and password is the only one accepted. Not sure about concurrent logins. If it works at home, then it would probably work when away from home.
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Accessing FON / Openzone

Hi,
I have just subscribed to the BBA package and have bought the HTC Hero phone (which I am delighted with). Can someone please tell me how I access BT FON or Openzone when in one of their hotspots? I've seen reference to landing pages, but do I need to bookmark these pages or should they be automatically presented when in a hotspot?

With your wi-fi switched on, and in range of an Openzone hotspot, you may have to connect manually the first time (look at the list of available netowrks, then select Openzone and hit connect... not sure of specifics there as I'm a WinMo user) after you've connected once, it sould automatically connect whenever you're in range of an openzone hotspot.
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No, it will not count against your usage allowance.
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I want am about to disable my ‘Fon’ service.
Does that mean I will not be able to use my free Openzone minutes when out and about at airports, hotel’s etc ? Because I have opted out of fon ! Or be able to log onto Openzone with my account. Details on BT’s site are ambiguous.
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pottyperson wrote:Aren't BT hotspots provided commercially (eg Starbucks, John Lewis) free to everybody?
Those are provided by another WiFi company, normally "The Cloud". You get free limited access with a voucher code, but you normally have to register with them first.
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Endemic FON/Openzone Issues: Advertising Standards...

I've posted issues with FOn/BTO a couple of times, and no-one has been able to help with a solution.
All that I get is 'Me Too' replies.
A trawl through the posts indicates that the only problems consistently 'Solved' are the ones to do with unsubscribing from FON.
This says to me that this offering from BT is not fit for purpose.
One of the reasons I switched to BT rather than another ISP was the concept of access out and about.
I am seriously thinking of complaining to the Advertising Standards Authority. What do others think?

I have no problem connecting to BTFON/OPENZONE when out and about with HTC desire. just set phone app with username and password maining sure to use primary email and also btinternet.com address and not btopenworld
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Can apple TV link up to BT WIFI/FON/Openzone?

Wondered if anyone can clear up this wee query.
When using my mac and am connected to BT WIFI-FON I am able to open Safari, be taken to the bt homepage and can sign into my BT account from there.
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Bt openzone/FON connection issue

Ok so I often use this specific btopenzone wifi hotspot, used it for a couple hours every now and again for ages. Hit a problem now though my laptoop no longer connects to it. it sees it i click connect but it just keeps coming up no internet connection. Help/ This is the only wifi thing that it dont connect to.

It could be down to the hub2 (if this is being used) as there is a known issue whereby it caches ALL passing wireless devices which then jams the hub and stops the connection to Fon/Openzone - a reset of the hub is the only known cure, though BT are rolling out an update to sort this out.
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How to connect a PS3 to BT Openzone or Bt FON

I thought I would post this information as it has taken me all morning, a lot of phone calls and reading on google to sort this out!!
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I called BT directly and they said they didnt support it so I nearly gave up however I have now found out exactly how to connect!!
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I live in ontario tower and i was using btopen zone and bt fon thing( where you have to buy vouchers) for about 5 months and everything worked fine untill Monday. Now i can connect to any hotspots. It sais limited connectivity. Sometimes it sais "cant connect to the network". I tried every possible solution posted in previous topics...
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It could well be that the FON hot spot you were using is no longer there, is relies on BT customers who have opted into FON having their homehub switched on, there could be a number of reasons.
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BT Fon / BT Openzone connection issues

Hi, I have BT broadband and with that I believe I get access to the BT hotspots. I've registered my details on the BT FON website to make sure and it confirms. However if I'm out and about and my phone pics up an openzone hotspot it connects to it but doesn't log in. I open the BT FON app and it gets to the stage where it says 'checking login status...' it stays on this page and doesn't log in. I've checked and my details are correct so why can I not log in to any of these hotspots. I may get 1, once in a blue moon but in general they do not connect. Any ideas as to why? What makes it more annoying is that I end up having to turn my wifi off so I don't keep connecting to hotspots that don't work and then turn it on again when I get home.

There are a number of posts on this forum relating to this problem, you may like to check these first for a possible solution.
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There is some general help from BT here.
http://btsupport.custhelp.com/app/answers/list/c/1812
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