FONT BOOK 2.0.2 - Problems installing fonts

I am having problems loading fonts into Font Book 2.0.2 - I have been using Font Book 1.0.2 on two other macs and have had no problems loading any fonts. Using my new Mac (OS X 10.4.3) with the latest version of Font Book is proving to be very problematic as fonts such as INTERSTATE just will not load into the software.
Does Font Book 2.0.2 not work with some fonts that do work in previous versions of the software?...
Do you have to run OS Classic for some fonts to work in Font Book...?
Very fustrating..! - Thanks in advance to anybody for their help with this.
Dancho
i Mac G5 (Dec 05) Mac OS X (10.4.3)

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I'm new to OSX so please be gentle with me.
Having used classic for many, many years, I've just bought a MacBook Pro running 10.4.7. It's taking some getting used to, and I'm having a major headache with fonts.
On Classic, to install new fonts I just dropped them in the system/fonts folder. Easy!. Now, I'm trying to shift two font families from my old G4 Powerbook to the new machine, and I cannot get them to load into fontbook. No matter what I do, they just refuse to appear on the new machine (or in any application running on it) and it's driving me crazy.
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Hi, Adam. Welcome to the Discussions.
1. You wrote: "I'm trying to shift two font families from my old G4 Powerbook to the new machine, and I cannot get them to load into fontbook."If the fonts in question are bitmap fonts, then they won't work in Mac OS X.
Double-clicking a font should bring up a Preview window with an Install button. Clicking Install will install the font in either• your Home > Library > Fonts folder ("for me only"), or
• the Macintosh HD > Library > Fonts folder ("for all users of this computer"), or
• the System Folder > Fonts folder ("for Classic Mac OS")...which does not apply to your MacBook since it can't run Classic...depending on how you have set Font Book preferences, as indicated parenthetically above.
See also:• "Font Book 2.0 Help: Installing fonts."
• "Font Book 2.0 Help: Setting where Font Book installs fonts."
• "Mac OS X: Font Locations and Their Purposes."
I also recommend you read the Apple Technology Brief Fonts in Mac OS X (PDF) to familiarize yourself with both Font Book and Mac OS X font management. Many problems in using Font Book can be avoided by reading that document as well as the Font Book Help: in Font Book, select Help > Font Book Help.
If you get into trouble with Font Book, see my "Undoing Font Book" FAQ.
2. You wrote: "I'm new to OSX so please be gentle with me."There is a bit of a learning curve. My "Learning About Mac OS X" FAQ has a number of resources that you will find helpful including books, online training, and more.
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!http://www.biscuit.demon.co.uk/carta/cartainfotiger.gif!
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!http://www.biscuit.demon.co.uk/carta/cartainfoleo.gif!
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!http://www.biscuit.demon.co.uk/carta/cartaenglishrep.gif!
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!http://www.biscuit.demon.co.uk/carta/carta_english.gif!
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!http://www.biscuit.demon.co.uk/carta/carta_korean.gif!
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!http://www.biscuit.demon.co.uk/carta/carta_polski.gif!
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where did
you get the information about pre-92 Adobe postscript
fonts being uncompatible?
Oh, sure, it's hard enough for me to remember things these days and now you want me to remember where I learned them from?? geez... [gone lookin' ... okay, back] It was, as I vaguely recalled, on the Adobe site, re troubleshooting in OS X, in a list of "do this to solve your problems": "Make sure that you are using the latest version of the font... If the font's creation date is prior to 1992, a new version of the font may be available." The only Type 1's that have given me any problems were, all three of them, older than 92, and in troubleshooting something here a few weeks ago, that turned out to be a problem for someone else, too.
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Yes, well... Type 1's are supported. It seems that some older ones are a little funky (not in a design sense....)
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of the MM's (Helvetica LTand Times LT), Lucida
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This is assuming that the fonts
being used are not damaged and "Pass" Font Book's
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The assumption within that assumption is false: Font Book's validation is pretty iffy. I think the only reason we don't see it as REALLY iffy is because fonts, on the whole, are pretty solid in OS X (your current experience to the contrary). I've installed fonts (properly) that flew through the automatic-on-install validation but failed when I used the Validate Font command afterwards. I've had fonts that pass both the on-install and specific after-install validation but get a Bad Font warning dialog when being re-enabled after a disabling. (And I didn't use the font in between... ) Who knew Font Book did any validating when you re-enable fonts??
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(Not necessarily in this order)
1. Trash Font Book .plist
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4. Delete problem fonts from User and Computer
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None of it is ill-advised. I would add starting up in Safe Mode to see if the problems exist there as part of the narrow-down-the-problem stage. Same goes for setting up a separate user account and see how things are behaving there. (Yikes... did you try that yet??)
In addition, there are some special things to do when it's Office apps having the problem, or something going on with Adobe's application fonts folder...
Also, Zaph Dingbats is acting up as well. I removed
the .dfont version that was in the system folder, and
replaced it with the Adobe Font Folio Postscript
version (ITC Zaph Dingbats) that I loaded into Font
Book User/Library/Fonts folder. Now that I think
about it, that specific font has been around for
along time, and may very well be pre-1992. Hmmm...
Can you further define "acting up" ? In addition to the ZD dfont from the system, I've been using/testing ITC ZD from Adobe with no problems. It's version 2.0 with copyright dates of 1985 through 1987.
A lot to respond to. My apologies.
No problem. You caught me on a night when I'm too tired for real work but not so far gone I can't do this (tho I'm soon on my way, bleary-eyed, to get a fix of Sudoku puzzles).

Corrupted fonts Gone from Font Book / problem remains

_I have spent all day paying for the recklessness of installing fonts willy-nilly , I have now learned of font valication, and dozens of new things but, after using advice from Dr.Smokes' eBook & other sources, I still get such pages as the Apple start-up full of upside-down looking junk !
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~~TIA~~ --=Dave t_

Hi, Dave:
1. You've not provided any of the useful details needed to help solve your problem. For example:1.1. What fonts did you install?
1.2. How and where did you install them?
1.3. What fonts have you since removed?
1.4. How, and from where, did you remove them?The people answering questions here are not clairvoyant. WIthout such details, there's little to nothing that can be done to help you.
2. If I assume you installed them via Font Book, and did not change Font Book's default preferences for where fonts are installed, then:2.1. The fonts you installed are probably in your Home > Library > Fonts folder. If so, either trash them or create a new folder on your desktop and drag all the fonts in your Home > Library > Fonts folder to such. Assure your Home > Library > Fonts folder is empty.
2.2. Then, clear your font cache: see my "Undoing Font Book" FAQ or the "Reset Font Book" section in my book.
2.3. Also, clear your browser's cache. If you are using Safari, then press Command-Option-E.3. If none of the above helps, or if you may have trashed system-related fonts, then the next thing I would suggest is performing an Archive and Install of Mac OS X. See either the "Archive and Install" chapter in my book or my "General advice on performing an Archive and Install" FAQ for some important tips on this process.
You know how to reach me if any of the above requires further clarification.
Good luck!
Dr. Smoke
Author: Troubleshooting Mac® OS X
Note: The information provided in the link(s) above is freely available. However, because I own The X Lab™, a commercial Web site to which some of these links point, the Apple Discussions Terms of Use require I include the following disclosure statement with this post:
I may receive some form of compensation, financial or otherwise, from my recommendation or link.

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