Font book is slow to load

Since upgrading to Yosemite I have a problem with Font Book now being EXTREMELY slow in loading.
Under Mavericks the collection list shows up almost immediately and the full font list comes up in about 10 seconds for about 15 seconds to load the 617 font families, of which only about 25 are normally active. (I am in publishing/graphics and have a need for many font families)
Under Yosemite the font list shows up after about 15 seconds but the collection list takes 50 seconds!!!
There is the exact same number of fonts active but a 35 second difference in the speed to bring the app to full capability.
Font book appears to be loading the information in the reverse order with Yosemite and perhaps this is the cause for the big delay in loading.
Any suggestions other than?

I also forgot to add that for some of the pages that don't load or load slow. if you actually type the address into the address bar preceeded by "https://" instead of relying on search links or bookmarks it will load.

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Thank you for your reply. I have a few comments of my own.
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