Font ID Conflicts
TextEdit kept crashing on me when I tried saving a file, so I decided to clear my font cache and do a font validation/resolve duplicates. That problem is solved. I downloaded a trial version of FontDoctor, thinking it was a fully functional trial, but it's not. I went back to the Web site to purchase it, but don't have $70 to drop on software right now. Wondering if anyone can help me understand and resolve the following font ID conflict it found. I can't set this up the way it looks on my screen, so I'm using outline format to identify indentation.
I) Courier Final Draft
A) [Finder] /Library/Fonts/Courier\ Final\ Draft
B) [X in circle] ID Conflicts (ID# 2000)
1) Arial Narrow (Bold, Italic)
a) [Finder] /Library/Fonts/Microsoft/Arial\ Narrow
Message was edited by: Stephanie Michelle
Message was edited by: Stephanie Michelle
Courier is a standard OS X font. There's no need for another version of the same font. I would consider removing rather than disabling. The latter does not mean the system will overlook a duplicate ID problem. You don't need to delete the font, just remove it from the font folder in which it's installed.
You might also check all the font folders to be sure you haven't got the same font installed in more than one folder. Check:
/System/Library/Fonts/
/Library/Fonts/
/Home/Library/Fonts/
And don't overlook the Applications Support folders in /Library/ and /Home/Library/ where some applications install their own separate fonts. Final Draft may not install their fonts in the standard fonts folders.
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(2) Previously non-disclosed steps were used in the workflow between the CS5 export and the resultant files I got to see. Using Illustrator as a PDF editor or as trapping software for PDF files in general is a possible / likely cause of the problems. If not Illustrator, then some very defective PDF workflow software for trapping and/or editing was used.
(3) Although InDesign is not designed as an imposition tool, the fact is that it is used for amalgamation of content such as magazines, journals, etc. where ads and other content as PDF (and other formats) is placed within InDesign pages. This appears to be working correctly and is not the source of the problem.
The OP is dealing with problematic workflow, but not with InDesign problems.
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