Font mapping: 'Sans Serif' and 'Serif'

Hi,
I've got a trouble with my 'Sans' and 'Sans Serif' fonts (aliases?): they are mapped to one and the same undesirable Serif font. I've done some research, but still haven't got past vague suspicions.
Something in /etc/fonts/conf.d, no? BTW, this directory is empty, in my case.
I did this, experimentally:
$ sudo ln -s /etc/fonts/conf.avail/49-sansserif.conf 49-sansserif.conf
$ fc-cache -fv
Nothing changed. What's the correct approach to the problem?
Last edited by Llama (2011-07-21 15:37:12)

brebs wrote:What app are you using, that wants a "Sans Serif" alias? I think it should be "Sans" and "Serif"
KDE calls it "Sans Serif", Xfce just "Sans".
Thank you very much, brebs! At least, I can document the problem now:
$ fc-match "Sans"
Ubuntu-M.ttf: "Ubuntu" "Medium"
$ fc-match "Serif"
Ubuntu-M.ttf: "Ubuntu" "Medium"
Last edited by Llama (2011-07-21 15:46:47)

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A quick check shows that there are several sans-serif fonts that have the glyph you want (including Lucida Grande, as you know, and Arial Unicode), but none of the really nice Adobe text fonts that come with Indesign (Garamond Premiere Pro, Minion Pro, Warnock Pro, Chaparral Pro). But Times New Roman does (at least, the version I've got on my Mac).
And while Times New Roman is not a great match for Minion, it's better than Lucida Grande. At least it has serifs. If you can find a better one, do so.
Here's an easy way to fix the missing characters while keeping Minion as your main font. First, set up a character style that specifies the font Times New Roman. Then create a GREP Style in your text paragraph style that applies your new character style to any occurrence of \x{0289}. Each 0289 character will change to Times New Roman throughout the document. Set up a similar GREP style for each other unicode character you have, changing it to a font in which that character exists.

Pourquoi le rendu du 'sans-serif' est-il gras ?

Depuis quelques jours tous les rendus de polices 'sans-serif' et 'arial' sont en gras.
Ainsi, lorsque l'on consulte une page Wikipédia ou Google, tous les corps de texte ont une police (font) grasse (bold).
J'ai essayé avec deux nouveaux profils complètement vierges et j'ai les mêmes résultats.
Par exemple, ce champs d'insertion de texte (textarea#id_content) a un rendu de texte gras.
Bien que je sois passé de Firefox v14.0.0.1 à la mise à jour v15.0, le problème n'est pas résolu.

Indeed, When I disabled the box : "Use hardware acceleration when available". The font render was OK : No more "bold" effect.
But I don't understand that, because before 2 days, the render was OK too.
Here my Firefox information, with a screenshot :
Paramètres de base de l'application
Nom
Firefox
Version
15.0
Agent utilisateur
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/15.0
Dossier de profil
Ouvrir le dossier correspondant
Plugins activés
about:plugins
Configuration de compilation
about:buildconfig
Rapports de plantage
about:crashes
Utilisation mémoire
about:memory
Extensions
Nom
Version
Activée
ID
Adobe Acrobat - Create PDF
1.2
false
[email protected]
Adobe Contribute Toolbar
6.1
false
{01A8CA0A-4C96-465b-A49B-65C46FAD54F9}
Skype Click to Call
6.0.0.10297
false
{82AF8DCA-6DE9-405D-BD5E-43525BDAD38A}
Préférences modifiées importantes
Nom
Valeur
browser.cache.disk.capacity
1048576
browser.cache.disk.smart_size.first_run
false
browser.cache.disk.smart_size_cached_value
593920
browser.places.smartBookmarksVersion
4
browser.startup.homepage_override.buildID
20120824154833
browser.startup.homepage_override.mstone
15.0
extensions.lastAppVersion
15.0
gfx.direct3d.prefer_10_1
true
network.cookie.prefsMigrated
true
places.history.expiration.transient_current_max_pages
104858
privacy.sanitize.migrateFx3Prefs
true
Accélération graphique
Description de la carte
NVIDIA GeForce GT 335M
ID du vendeur
0x10de
ID du périphérique
0x0caf
RAM de la carte
1024
Pilotes de la carte
nvd3dumx,nvwgf2umx,nvwgf2umx nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Version du pilote
8.17.12.8562
Date du pilote
10-15-2011
Direct2D activé
true
DirectWrite activé
true (6.1.7601.17789)
Paramètres ClearType
Gamma: 2200 Pixel Structure: RGB ClearType Level: 100 Enhanced Contrast: 50
Rendu WebGL
Google Inc. -- ANGLE (NVIDIA GeForce GT 335M ) -- OpenGL ES 2.0 (ANGLE 1.0.0.1041)
Fenêtres avec accélération graphique
1/1 Direct3D 10
AzureBackend
direct2d
JavaScript
Ramasse-miettes incrémental
0
Versions des bibliothèques
Version minimale attendue
Version utilisée
NSPR
4.9.1
4.9.1
NSS
3.13.6.0 Basic ECC
3.13.6.0 Basic ECC
NSS Util
3.13.6.0
3.13.6.0
NSS SSL
3.13.6.0 Basic ECC
3.13.6.0 Basic ECC
NSS S/MIME
3.13.6.0 Basic ECC
3.13.6.0 Basic ECC

Font mapping: 'Sans Serif' and 'Serif'

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