Font rendering in CS5

I have had some trouble with the CS5 version of Photoshop.
the problem is this:
as you can see, there is some kind of "shadow" around the text. I have included the option panels for you to see
that the document is 72dpi, RGB / 8bit, the font is Arial 12pt and NON ANTIALIASED.
this is the magnified version of it:
The above are screen shots. If i export the text it renders normaly as it should.
This lead me to believe that photoshop renders the font even though it shouldnt.
Any suggestions?

You have isolated the problem to the OpenGL feature. That says that the Photoshop - ATI 10.6 combination on your system isn't working right. I can't tell you who's at fault; you'll need to take it up with both I think.
Have you tried enabling it but selecting "Basic" in the Advanced config?
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