Font rendering in GTK

I am having sporadic font issues with GTK applications. Example:
http://i.imgur.com/wJa2839.jpg
There is no identifyable trigger, but it appears to be universal (e.g. pidgin is currently displaying the same types of black boxes). Additionally, in GTK lists, some items disappear (e.g. some of my folder names in Sylpheed go missing) until I move the cursor and trigger some sort of tooltip.
I'm running the Enlightenment desktop from the official packages and no other obvious potential patches / apps that I can investigate.
21:14:50(Fri!) an ~> locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=
-- mod edit: converted oversized image to url. Trilby --
Last edited by Trilby (2014-11-01 02:14:20)

Hello, a few weeks ago I installed kde and when I open firefox- only occurs in firefox ( no google-chrome)- this happens to me in some characters::
At first I thought it was a matter of rendering fonts, I have installed infinality-bundle, I made a comment in the thread bohoomil:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=162098&p=57
..... this told me that he believed that this is issue drivers not rendering fonts ... I do not know exactly why this problem occurs , it may be a problem of firefox with drivers "mesa" (Open Source Drivers) .
My graphic card and drivers card is:
[hector@archkde ~]$ inxi -Gx
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Bonaire XTX [Radeon R7 260X]
bus-ID: 01:00.0
Display Server: X.Org 1.16.1 drivers: ati,radeon Resolution: [email protected]
GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD BONAIRE
GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.3.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
I try dissabiling "Hardware Aceleration" in Firefox and customize the values to graphic card (20-radeon.conf).. but unfortunately this did not work ...
Note: I think most cases occurs :
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=189180
Best Regards.
Last edited by colegui (2014-11-01 06:27:48)

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I think the spacing now is correct, while before it was wrong. The only "problem" is that you got used to a bad font rendering, and now that it has changed for better you feel like it's different and don't like it.
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theyre practically identical with programs & fonts installed, the only fonts that are installe are the ones that wer epreinstalled with the system, and that came with Office 04 and CS2
any way to maybe fix this issue?

hey! well i tried your site url on my MacPro and i have the same issue, so it must be a macpro thing? lol
im running the latest firefox and no additional fonts installed other than the ones you have listed yourself (office, cs2, macromedia)
so dont fret. i tried using font finangler and onyx to clean the font cache, (not sure i fhtat was a good idea,) but it shows up on mine so your not the only one! ive tried on two different macpros one wiht out any programs and it does the same thing. so it must be something with the wya its rendering on these machines.
at first it hought maybe something got corrupted in my system aswell
hope that helps!!

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