Font Rendering to thick

It seems that Firefox is rendering fonts a bit too thick. font-weight is set to the right values, the problem is partially solved when decreasing the weight 100 (from 300 to 200) but is then displayed too thin on the other browsers.
This image shows from left to right Safari 6, Chrome 25 and Firefox 19
http://palacz.at/exchange/comparison.png
You also can see clearly that the Font Awesome Icons I used are too thick and don't look good at all. Also the font-weight is set correctly and is displayed correctly in the Inspector of Firefox.

Hi dreerr, at first I got the same results you got, but then I noticed that the font download was being blocked by NoScript, so another font was being substituted. After I allowed the font download, Firefox lined up with IE9 and Chrome (on Windows 7 Pro 64-bit).

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Font rendering too thick

It seems that Firefox is rendering fonts a bit too thick. font-weight is set to the right values, the problem is partially solved when decreasing the weight 100 (from 300 to 200) but is then displayed too thin on the other browsers.
This image shows Safari 6, Chrome 25 and Firefox 19
http://palacz.at/exchange/comparison.png
You also can see clearly that the Font Awesome Icons I used are too thick and don't look good at all. Also the font-weight is set correctly and is displayed correctly in the Inspector of Firefox.

Hi dreerr, at first I got the same results you got, but then I noticed that the font download was being blocked by NoScript, so another font was being substituted. After I allowed the font download, Firefox lined up with IE9 and Chrome (on Windows 7 Pro 64-bit).

Font rendering change after upgrade

After upgrading freetype from current to the latest version I noticed that my fonts changed. The rendering was thicker, as in most other linux distributions. Not that it was bad, but I prefer the thin ones Arch had up to now.To solve it I just downgraded freetype to the previous version and everything is fine, but I wonder if the change is due to the way both versions are configured/compiled or is it an internal change in freetype?
I ask because I'd like to keep this thinner fonts, so I want to know if I should just stop upgrading freetype forever or could I recompile the latest version to get this kind of fonts?

Bogart wrote:
slackhack wrote:btw, do you have TFT or CRT? i have a TFT and have tried autohinting both on and off, but it looks like total crap with it off.
I have a CRT, since TFT screens hurt my eyes with their crispness. I prefer the smooth CRT image. I use the defult hinting (medium), though I've found that if I turn it to full hinting I get the thinner fonts too with this latest freetype, so now I can choose without the need to downgrade.
that must be the reason, because i have a TFT and just upgraded to the latest freetype2/fontconfig, and the fonts look worse than ever. changing hintfull to hintmedium in ~/.fonts.conf has no effect whatsoever. i moved the /etc/fonts/conf.d directory, no effect, removed local.conf, no effect. nothing seems to fix them, it's really annoying. and worst of all, the old freetype2 isn't installing because it requires an older fontconfig, and when i try to install an older fontconfig, i get some libexpat library error and everything crashes when i try to launch it.
>>update: i just checked in gnome, and the fonts look really good there. XFCE4 must use some different method of hinting the fonts than gnome, which i thought uses the freetype2 autohinter. i changed hinting to medium in the xfce4 UI settings, and that improved things a little, even though i have hintmedium set in ~/.fonts.conf. maybe xfce4 uses the BCI hinter and bypasses the freetype hinter?

Font Rendering Got Bad After 32.0 Update

After the recent update, the font started to get badly rendered. Kind of blurry with jagged edges and transparent parts. It used to be okay D:
Sometimes it becomes okay for a moment as I scroll down on pages, and sometimes when I stop scrolling, the font stays as it is; as if there are specific positions for the text to render properly. However, not all of the fonts are affected. Only the ones inside the scroll area.
On times that the font renders properly, the bookmarks font, title bar, and tab names are unaffected and still appear not-smooth. Same thing does not happen on other browsers. All my other system fonts look okay; it's really just Firefox.
Restarting Firefox = didn't work
Restarting Computer = didn't work
Tried setting up Clear Type = didn't work
Tried enabling and disabling Hardware Acceleration on Firefox = didn't work
Tried enabling and disabling the Graphics card itself = didn't work
Tried just about all of the suggestions I found on Google = none worked
Tried complete uninstall and re-install of Firefox 32.0 = didn't work
Graphics Driver are updated ~
Windows is updated ~
I'm using Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
Graphics AMD Radeon HD 6800
I fixed it by downgrading to Firefox 31 which makes me sure that 32.0 is the culprit. As I was about to send the message on top; I tried downgrading as my last resort and it worked. Now I'm only sending this as a report. I am hoping you'll figure out what caused it because I am quite strict (OC) that everything in my PC must remain updated >_<; thus I want to use Firefox 32.0 as much as possible.

No one to help on this ??????

Flex 4.5/FP10.2 web app: Font rendering problem

Heya,
Upped a web app from Flex 4.0/4.1 to Flex 4.5 & fonts started to render really badly (blurry & 'stronger').
They are embedded as CFF, no errors or warnings gives. Also upgraded to Flash Player 10.2, which apparently has 'enhanched' font rendering.
Haven't set applicationDPI on the s:Application tag, so DPI management should be disabled according to the docs.
(See http://help.adobe.com/en_US/flex/mobileapps/WS19f279b149e7481c682e5a9412cf5976c17-8000.htm l)
It's straight up @font-face embeds in a CSS file, nothing odd or wrong there.
Is the case that this is how it's supposed to look now? In that case, how do I revert back to sane rendering?
Do I need to configure 4.5 somehow to get it to do fonts right?

Also tested Franklin Gothic, same deal. Tested on Mac (10.2) & PC (10.2 & 10.3). Flex 4.5 for both platforms.
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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<s:Application xmlns:fx="http://ns.adobe.com/mxml/2009"
xmlns:s="library://ns.adobe.com/flex/spark"
xmlns:mx="library://ns.adobe.com/flex/mx" minWidth="955" minHeight="600">
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fontFamily="Arial"
fontLookup="embeddedCFF"
fontSize="12"
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text="TESTAR Testar testar" />
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Font rendering differences between Xfce and KDE

Hi,
I am using both KDE and Xfce (mostly Xfce with KDE apps) and I observed that there is a font rendering difference between Gtk (Xfce) and QT (KDE) apps.
In both desktop environments I use dejavu sans font, size 9 and I have set RGB subpixel rendering and hinting to full.
I created some screenshots of dolphin and thunar to illustrate the differences (right click and select view image to see the screenshots in full resolution)
Can somebody help me to make gtk app fonts to look the same as qt ones? Or at least tell me why there is this difference.
Thank you.

I cant tell you why there is a difference, but this page may help you. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_Configuration
I ended up installing the Ubuntu patched packages in the AUR, but there are different options.

Font rendering quality in Illustrator is terrible!

What the heck rode Adobe when they implemented the new font engine?
Why, oh why is Apple's font rendering so much better? And why wouldn't Adobe use something that's already readily available on the mac platform?
I have a huge problem mocking up website layouts in Illustrator. Type looks much better in Firefox or Safari. How come, huh?

I believe this is the result of sub-pixel antialiasing (SPAA), which optimizes text appearance on laptops. Illustrator's rasterizing doesn't SPAA, which is fine for most CRTs, print, and LCD displays that might be rotated.
It's more a case of the OS being savvy enough to tell what kind of display you have and antialias appropriately. Illustrator's rendering engine does need to support SPAA.

Why is the number "1" when setting up the dial fat thickness did not change the font? Is it possible to adjust the font in the thick klavioture typing?

Why is the number "1" when setting up the dial fat thickness did not change the font? Is it possible to adjust the font in the thick klavioture typing?

paulcb wrote:
Using the Bold Text Accessibility option does make the keypad numbers a little bolder.
Yep - I was only looking at Text Size.
But still, not sure what the deal is. The "1" is just as readable as any other number on the keyboard regardless.

Font rendering OS X issues

Hi people,
I baught a MacBook Air and I am new to OS X. I have this machine since 1 month and I simply cannot get used to the font rendering of OS X. I thought I get used to it after a while, but I don't. I feel like I have body lotion in my eyes all the time, fonts are really blurry and I can only work on that machine for some time. On my windows machine I worked all day long, with no such problems, but not in OS X. It is set to native resolution and I already set the font smoothing to 1, but this is still not enough, while turning font smoothing completely off makes everything look very ugly.
I wonder why no one ever mentioned that in reviews, etc.? Does it not bother mac users? However, is there some other option (besides scaling down to lower resolution)? I have headache almost every evening, so this is really a problem to me.
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Do any other applications behave like that? Or just these two?

Crisp / Clear Font Rendering?

Is there any suggestion on Arch Linux running Gnome 2.6.30 to improve the crisp / clearness of my fonts? I installed the latest available nVidia drivers & under 'Appearance' > 'Fonts' > 'Details', I show the following:
* Resolution: 98 dots per square inch.
* Smoothing: Subpixel (LCD)
* Hinting: Slight
* Subpixel Order: RGB
It just never seems as clear and crisp when I compare side by side to Ubuntu or Windows 7. The font clarity is notable difference beween Arch and I would like to change this. Any help and or tips would be greatly appreciated!
Screenshot
-Carlos
Last edited by Carlwill (2010-04-28 13:25:23)

Ubuntu uses special patches for their font rendering: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fon … d_packages
Windows uses Cleartype: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fon … e_packages

Weird Font Rendering Issue?

Okay i was looking fo some back up drives online, and i stumbled upon:
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Seagate-Barracuda-7200-9-500GB-Internal-Drive-ST3 500641ARK/sem/rpsm/oid/168899/catOid/-12976/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
it renders like this:
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4641/picture3rn0.png
http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture4dr1.png
but for some reason on my MacPro 2.66 the font renders odd in FireFox (doenst do it on Safari. and ive tried this exact sit eon my MacBookPro and it looks fine on Firefox.
I have the following installed (on both machines)
-FireFox 2.0.0.9
-Microsoft Office 2004
-Adobe CS2
-Macromedia Studio 8
theyre practically identical with programs & fonts installed, the only fonts that are installe are the ones that wer epreinstalled with the system, and that came with Office 04 and CS2
any way to maybe fix this issue?

hey! well i tried your site url on my MacPro and i have the same issue, so it must be a macpro thing? lol
im running the latest firefox and no additional fonts installed other than the ones you have listed yourself (office, cs2, macromedia)
so dont fret. i tried using font finangler and onyx to clean the font cache, (not sure i fhtat was a good idea,) but it shows up on mine so your not the only one! ive tried on two different macpros one wiht out any programs and it does the same thing. so it must be something with the wya its rendering on these machines.
at first it hought maybe something got corrupted in my system aswell
hope that helps!!

Font Rendering Issues-Help Required Please

In the past week, any Google search on Firefox or Chrome (but not Opera) gives me results where the fonts look gappy. Sometimes there are additional dots above the letters. I uninstalled and reinstalled Firefox from scratch in case an add-on was at fault but even with a clean install I am still seeing the issue. I checked my font settings and do not have any minimum font size set. I have allow pages to choose their own font ticked.
I've uploaded an image where I can see some correctly rendered text and some gappy looking text (not from a Google search but a Mozilla query). It also happens when commenting online sometimes, during typing it will be gappy but it will show properly once submitted. Any ideas for a fix would be warmly welcomed and I can give more examples if that would help. Although it's not Firefox related, I did restore all defaults in Chrome and it didn't fix the issue there either.
I uninstalled the most recent Windows Update since the problem is recent but it didn't change anything. I'm not sure if browsers would even look to my computers fonts.

hi Auds77, this is probably caused by microsoft update kb3013455 which can cause font rendering issues on vista:
<blockquote>After you install security update 3013455, you may notice some text quality degradation in certain scenarios. The problem only occurs on systems that are running Windows Vista SP2 or Windows Server 2003 SP2. Microsoft is researching this problem and will post more information in this article when the information becomes available. </blockquote>
<sup>reference: https://support.microsoft.com/kb/3013455</sup>
one option may be to [http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/remove-update#1TC=windows-vista roll-back this particular update] for now until there is a fix by microsoft or you could also look if there is a [[Upgrade your graphics drivers to use hardware acceleration and WebGL|graphics driver update]] available on the website of the vendor (intel/amd/nvidia) which might also resolve this problem in some cases.

Ugly fonts rendering with poppler-qt-lcd

Hello,
These patches don't work on my system.
All fonts rendering are beautiful, but pdf documents in okular are ugly.
I have tried ubuntu cairo patches without effects on this issue.
I have tried also to change hinting parameters in fontconfig without success.
Here is screenshots.
With extra/poppler-qt :
with aur/poppler-qt-lcd :
The rendering is worst with poppler-qt-lcd !
Anybody other has this issue ?
Thank you

I'm afraid this is a problem with the Cairo backend; the patches just create a bridge between the Qt bindings and the Cairo backend, and instruct Cairo to use subpixel rendering. Unfortunately, it doesn't always comply. Since Cairo 1.10 came out, more documents are affected. You'll notice the following comment was posted on AUR around the time Cairo 1.10 came out:
Sadly, it seems an increasing number of documents are not properly subpixel-rendered in the Cairo backend, even with these patches. I'm afraid that issue is for other people with more understanding of Cairo internals to solve. (See here: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3307 ).

KDE : slow font rendering

Hi everyone !
I'm completely new to Arch (coming from Ubuntu) and was really amazed at how fast my system could get and how easy it was to set it up.
I only have one problem left (apart from the missing japanese fonts) :
When anti-aliasing is turned on (in KDE), fonts rendering gets really slow. It can be noticed when selecting a big chunk of text with the mouse, in Konqueror or Kate : you can feel it takes some time. Or when switching tabs in Konqueror. Those are definitely much faster in Opera and Firefox.
However, with anti-aliasing turned off, it is almost instant, as it should. But it looks really awful (in general, I have much trouble getting a good font rendering in linux. Probably because of my 19" LCD that only reached 1280x1024)
Do you have any idea ? My config is : nvidia geforce 6600, proprietary drivers, athlon 64 3200+. I tried some MS fonts and the DejaVu font.
Just in case, you may see my xorg.conf, below.
THANKS EVER SO MUCH for reading this far I think my problem may concern many other newbies like me
# nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings
# nvidia-settings: version 1.0 (buildmeister@builder3) Thu Nov 9 17:56:12 PST 2006
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Layout0"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
Screen 1 "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
EndSection
Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/lib/X11/rgb"
EndSection
Section "Module"
Load "dbe"
Load "extmod"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
Load "glx"
EndSection
Section "ServerFlags"
Option "Xinerama" "0"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
# generated from default
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
# generated from default
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbLayout" "fr"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
# HorizSync source: edid, VertRefresh source: edid
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Unknown"
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HorizSync 30.0 - 83.0
VertRefresh 56.0 - 75.0
Option "DPMS"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
# HorizSync source: xconfig, VertRefresh source: xconfig
Identifier "Monitor1"
VendorName "Unknown"
ModelName "TV-0"
HorizSync 28.0 - 33.0
VertRefresh 43.0 - 72.0
Option "DPMS"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
Driver "nvidia"
VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
BoardName "GeForce 6600"
BusID "PCI:2:0:0"
Screen 0
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard1"
Driver "nvidia"
VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
BoardName "GeForce 6600"
BusID "PCI:2:0:0"
Screen 1
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
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EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen1"
Device "Videocard1"
Monitor "Monitor1"
DefaultDepth 24
Option "metamodes" "TV: 800x600 +0+0"
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EndSection

Oh gees, it seems the culprit was the "sub-hinting" (halo de sous-pixellisation) option. I thought I had tried all possible combinations
However, I wonder if it is supposed to slow down the display that much...
Anyway... I would still be eager to find a solution to display japanese fonts
Thanks for listening to me
Last edited by mahen (2007-02-05 11:55:09)

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