Fonts default to 50 point when applying a paragraph style

I have run into this several times. When updating an InDesign file from an older version (now using CS5) when I apply a paragraph style the font defaults to 50 point no matter the style settings. Is there some way to avoid this. Currently I'm copying and pasting the graphics into a new file and having to reset the text. If I copy any of the old text over it causes the same problem.
Most of our text is copied and pasted from Microsoft Word (old version and new text edits), however, the text that was already in the document and the new text both do the same thing when a style is applied.
CS5
Win 7 Pro 64bit

My original "body" style isn't base on any style and the other styles are based on "body" but none of them (including Basic Paragraph), have 50 as the size.
I had it wrong in my original question, it's not 50 point size, it's 30 point with 50 point leading, bold, and Myriad Pro (which is my body font) that everything converts to no matter which style I choose. My basic paragraph style is Times New Roman 12/14. Body font that everything is based on is Myriad Pro, regular, 10/14.

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pchinique wrote:
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graphicsoc wrote:
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