Footage out of image safe area

Hello,
I'm working something for a friend.  She has a scene where the person's head is out of the image safe area.  Is there a way to fix that other than a re-shoot?  I am guessing not but wanted to make sure.  I'm using FCP 5.
Thanks

There isn't, but you should ask your question on the Final Cut Studio forum.

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