Force 5ghz when extending extreme with express
Is there a way to force a 5ghz connection between the new AirPort Extreme and new airport express. When it connects at 5ghz I Get twice the performance with a solid connection. The power went out and now it only connects between the two at 2.4ghz. Please help
If you give a different name to each band, you can try forcing the connection.. but the other problem is apple will mess up what happens at the other end.
Let me explain.
I am running two apple routers.. older models but that doesn't matter.
I name the wireless in the wired router Time Capsule.. TC24ghz and TC5ghz.
I can then select which band I will extend in the upstairs Airport Extreme.
The strange side effect of this, is that upstairs will also create a second band with name TC5ghz but working on 2.4ghz.
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Setting up an extended network from extreme with express
Hi,
Let me just explain what I am trying to do and I would love any help or suggestions.
I have the modem going into the airport extreme. The extreme is about 30 feet away, hard wired and hanging upside down in my hallway (should it be on the wall or upside down on ceiling?) From the airport extreme I have a cable going to a 8 port hub which I have my PS3, XBOX 360, Roku, Apple TV, 3D DVD and two 3D Tv's hooked up so there all hardwired. Another cable is coming from the airport extreme and I want to take that further into the house down the hallway and wire that into an aiport express which would then boost my signal. Is my thought process wrong there? I know I can do all that with my airport extreme, and then putting my airport express within range of the extreme I can wirelessly extend the network but I was thinkning I could have a wifi network from the extreme and then have the airport express hardwired to boost the network instead of it boosting it wirlessly. If I am not making sense let me know. I had the airport express extending the network wirelessly but it was not helping at all. Both are brand new, the extreme and the express. The wireless clients are all new also, new macbook, macbook pro, 2009 iMac, 3 iPhone 4's and 2 iPad 2's so I am pretty sure there all wireless N devices so it should not slow down my network right? I have no techincal background, just learning this from reading forums etc so I am trying to give all information that I can think of thats useful. Please ask any question and I will answer, I just hope I can figure something out. I live in a 1400 square foot apartment so it surprises me that the extreme (new dual band etc) doesnt give me internet everywhere let alone with also having an airport express extending the network. In the back two bedrooms and bathroom which are down the hallway and about 25 feet from the extreme have signal that is so bad that sometimes I cant even read simple RSS feeds let alone download app updates etc on my devices. I have setup the airport extreme to have both 2.4ghz and 5ghz networks and I see them both on all devices except for my iPhone. I have changed the channels for both frequencies by using Tumblr I believe it was and seeing what channels all the networks around me are. My present internet speeds aer 18mbs down and 2 mb up when I am sitting next to the aiport extreme and in direct line of sight. This also holds true on my iMac and laptops in the same room. The laptops in the backrooms get internet and I can do more with them than my iOS devices but even on there I have a hard time streaming etc. I am trying to get internet back there for my sons room, I have a wifi camera that I want to setup in there and so he can use an iPad there (he is 20 months which is why I want the camera) and for my room I have another Roku and Apple TV that barely get signal and are constantly buffering.
I am about to wall mount the exstreme with an airmount and am looking to permanently set everything up so please any suggestions, or hints, or things I need to be aware of please do tell. I would hate to mount everything and run the cables etc and miss something obvious. I appreciate your guys help and thanks for taking the time to read this.
basically
modem = airport extreme, that = (8 port hub)+(wired to aiport express) the express would then put out a wifi network to go along with the aiport extreme.The extreme is about 30 feet away, hard wired and hanging upside down in my hallway (should it be on the wall or upside down on ceiling?
The ceiling will normally provide the best coverage in a typical room. The whole idea here is to limit obstructions between the AirPort Extreme and devices receving the wireless signal. Wall mounting can work well, again with the idea being to provide a clear signal path to devices.
Another cable is coming from the airport extreme and I want to take that further into the house down the hallway and wire that into an aiport express which would then boost my signal.
This type of configuration will provide the best bandwidth for the wireless network, and also allow you to locate the AirPort Express where it work most effectively. You want to configure what is known as a "roaming" network. The AiirPort Express will be configured using the same wireless network name, security setting and password as the AirPort Extreme. It is mandatory that the AirPort Express be configured in Bridge Mode when you do this.
Apple's instructions for this are in this link:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4260 -
Having Problems Extending Extreme with another Extreme as well as Express???
Extreme in Basement is (Extreme1)
Extreme in room is (Extreme 2)
Hi all! I have 2 AiportExtremes and a AiportExpress. I have (Extreme1) in my basement where it is connected to a modem with a cable. I selected the option EXTEND NETWORK and under Connection Sharing it is on SHARE A PUBLIC IP ADDRESS in Aiport Utility. The internet work and everything, but it is a bit weak upstairs. (Extreme1) is version 7.6.1, but it can be updated to 5.6.1. I hit update and nothing happens.... Why???
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I then wanted to put (Extreme2) in my room which was above the main floor to extend the connection. I connected a internet cable in (Extreme2) and the other side went into my Internet Wall Jack. After that, I connected a cable in my basement where my Internet Jack Box is to (Extreme 1.) That cable connected to the first Port of (Extreme 1) unless you count the modem cable so then it is in the 2nd Port.
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I went through the process on (Extreme2) by clicking continue and I did the name of the router, password, and I checked off remember in keychain. I then clicked I WANT AIRPORT EXTREME TO JOIN MY CURRENT NETWORK. After that, I clicked I WANT TO CONNECT AIRPORT EXTREME TO MY NETWORK USING ETHERNET TO EXTEND MY EXISTING WIRELESS NETWORK. I picked the name of (Extreme1) which is BigDogRouter and I get the final menu of what I clicked. It didn't save the settings I hit, like I hit I WANT AIRPORT EXTREME TO JOIN MY CURRENT NETWORK and it said I hit CREATE A WIRELESS NETWORK. The thing is though, under Wirless Network Name it's the network name of (Extreme1.) So this it totally mest up... I hit update and about 1 minute later, everything went through, both routers went green, Airport Utility was trying to detect the routers and then the problem occured where both of the routers dissapeared on Airport Utility. I got a messgae saying it couldn't detect the devices. After that happened, I couldn't get the routers to show back up, but on my bottom right side of the computer where my networks are shown, (Extreme1) network is there having full bars, but it won't let me connect. I had to do a full factory reset on both routers to get (Extreme1) back up and running.
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I went to Wirless, I cliked EXTEND WIRELESS NETWORK and I had to type in the wireless network name of (Extreme1.) I checked ALLOW WIRELESS CLIENTS as well as giving the router the same security as (Extreme1) which is WPA2 PERSONAL. I also gave it the same password.
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Once that was done, I clicked Internet Connection. Connection Using had WIRELESS NETWORK selected. Under that, Connection Sharing had OFF (BRIDGE MODE) already selected as well. It wouldn't let me change Connection Useing and Connection Sharing.
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I clicked update and the same exact thing happend as if I hit continue. I am totally confused and I have been trying to fix this problem for more than 2 months. If anyone has any ideas then please post up. I had a similar problem with my Express to, but I won't get into that till later.
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Extending network with Express via Ethernet(Complicated)
Hi all
I have an AirPort Extreme(Base Station). Now, I would like to extend my network by using an AirPort Express. To get a maximal signal, I've put an Ethernet-cable in the room where the Express will be placed. How do I have to install this Express now to be an extension of my current network without getting its connection wirelessly? The Express should get his connection from the Ethernet-cable which I put in the room.
Simplified: I want the Express to be some kind of a base station without creating a new network.
I think the solution might be making my two AirPorts both bridges, but this didn't work out so well when I tried this.
Thanks a lot to the one who can help me out!Hello Momomo92094. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
With the AirPort Express Base Station (AX) connected to the AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBS) by Ethernet you only need to do the following:
o Reconfigure the AX as a bridge.
o Use the same Network Name (SSID) for both wireless networks.
o Use a radio channel on the AX that is at least 3 channels away from the one used on the AEBS.
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Meet error when extending FileWriter with JDK1.5.0
There is a fragment of Java code as follows:
import java.io.File;
import java.io.FileDescriptor;
import java.io.FileWriter;
import java.io.IOException;
import java.io.Writer;
public class FilterFileWriter extends FileWriter
private short _tokenCounter = 0;
private StringBuffer _buffer = new StringBuffer();
private String _pattern = "Bioseq-set";
private String _lastAppend = "";
private boolean _doWrite = true;
public void write(char[] arg0, int arg1, int arg2) throws IOException
super.write(arg0, arg1, arg2);
public void write(int arg0) throws IOException
if( _doWrite )
super.write( arg0 );
if(_lastAppend.equalsIgnoreCase( pattern ) && !doWrite && arg0 == 60 )
_doWrite = true;
super.write( arg0 );
_lastAppend = "";
public void write(String arg0, int arg1, int arg2) throws IOException
super.write(arg0, arg1, arg2);
public void write(char[] arg0) throws IOException
//Launcher.getLoggerInstance().info( "Writing array " + arg0[0] );
super.write(arg0);
public void write(String str) throws IOException
if( str.equalsIgnoreCase( _pattern ) )
if( _lastAppend.equalsIgnoreCase( "</" ) )
_doWrite = false;
_lastAppend = str;
return;
if( str.equalsIgnoreCase( "</" ) )
_lastAppend = str;
return;
if( _lastAppend.equalsIgnoreCase( "</" ) )
super.write( _lastAppend );
if( _doWrite )
super.write( str );
if( str.trim().length() > 0 )
_lastAppend = str;
public void write( String str, boolean force ) throws Exception
if( force )
super.write( str );
public FilterFileWriter(File arg0) throws IOException
super(arg0);
public FilterFileWriter(File arg0, boolean arg1) throws IOException
super(arg0, arg1);
public FilterFileWriter(FileDescriptor arg0)
super(arg0);
public FilterFileWriter(String arg0) throws IOException
super(arg0);
public FilterFileWriter(String arg0, boolean arg1) throws IOException
super(arg0, arg1);
private boolean hasPattern()
return buffer != null && buffer.toString().indexOf( _pattern ) >= 0;
When compiling, meet following error:
The return type is incompatible with Appendable.append(char), Writer.append(char),Writer.append(char)
Why? and How to resolve this error?
Thanks a lot!Did you ever find a solution to this problem? I just installed jdk 1.5_03 and I get the following error from a class that does not have any of the methods described in the error below.
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Somewhat confused about extending network with express
I have a Belkin N+ wireless router running between my imac and cable modem. They are both in my office next to my computer.
My wife's macbook is at the other end of our house. The signal she gets is ok. When I turn on my ipod touch in our bedroom, the signal it receives is barely adequate.
I have a "N" express. I thought if I plugged it into the wall midway between my office and my wife's that would act as kind of a repeater to give the signal a boost in that part of the house.
Is that wrong?
If so, is there anything I can do with the express to boost the signal for her office and the ipod at that end.
Maybe plug it into the wall by her macbook and run and Ethernet cable into her macbook? Would doing that also boost the wireless signal in that part of the house?
I've read a bit on this forum about connected the express to the wireless modem and then adding another express. Would that do it?
Sorry for so many questions, but I would be grateful for any advice.
jeffJust one more quick question: if I pick up an extra express to go with the one I already have, plus the extreme, will three as opposed to to the extreme and one express make the network that much stronger?
Adding base stations won't make it "stronger". With additional base stations you can increase the coverage of the wireless network.
Ok, two questions, is there a special setup with the routers plus the cable modem that would be most efficient for broadcasting the signal through my home?
No -
I have a functioning Airport Extreme network. I thought I could easily extend it with Express, but when I try installing it, the only option I get is to create a new network.
The tech people I spoke with before buying Express said there would be a choice during installation to extend the network, versus creating a new one.
I hope I'm doing some simple thing wrong.
thanksOk, you were close. Try the following ...
Note: You actually want to "switch networks" during the setup phase as both base stations will initially be running their own wireless network.
o If practical, place the base stations in near proximity to each other during the setup phase. Once done, move them to their desired locations.
o Open AirPort Utility and select the base station that will connect to the Internet. Again, it's okay to switch networks.
o Choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu, or double-click the base station to open the configuration in a separate window. Enter the base station password if necessary.
o Click AirPort in the toolbar, and then click Wireless.
o Choose “Create a wireless network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu, and then select the “Allow this network to be extended” checkbox.
o Next, select the base station that will extend this network, and choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu, or double-click the base station to open its configuration in a separate window. Enter the base station password if necessary.
o Choose “Extend a wireless network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu, and then choose the network you want to extend from the Network Name pop-up menu.
o Enter the base station network and base station password is necessary.
o Click Update to update the base station with new network settings.
(ref: Page 46 of "Designing AirPort Networks Using AirPort Utility.) -
Extending network with Airport Express and Airport Extreme (latest models) causes chaos on network
Today I upgraded from my several year old Airport Extreme (3rd gen) and 2nd gen Airport Express to a new (what you'd buy on the shelf today) Airport Extreme and Airport Express. All airports are updated with the latest firmware and I'm using windows 7 for configuration.
The intention is to use the Airport Extreme as the main router, also serving wifi. And extend the network using the express. As such, the following has been done:
The Airport Extreme is configured for automatic channel, and automatic radio mode. I tried to select 802.11n 5 ghz and 802.11 n 2.4 ghz only, but it won't take the changes. Additionally, it wont' accept me using only channel 6. Not sure why, but I digress. The airport extreme is not set to broadcast a separate name for the 5ghz network.
The Airport Express is configured to use bridge mode, use an existing wireless network and is connected to my network on it's WAN port (the circle icon on the back) with ethernet. The password and wireless name used in configuration is the same as created initially on the Airport Extreme.
Initially I did the configuration of both airports on my computer, connected by ethernet to ensure stable connectivity while I inputted settings. During this, they appeared to accept the changes fine. However, when I moved the airport express to it's destination (other side of my house), the entire network went crazy.
Internet became slow, and often wouldn't load pages. This was on wired and wireless connections. When I attempted to administer the Airport in the Utility, they would not load, an error would occur. Also, at one point the Airport Extreme had renamed it self with a (2) at the end. Which was super odd. So far, the only solution has been to unplug the Airport Express and attempt to devise a solution.
Anyone have any ideas? Of course, I will continue to tinker with this, but it seems realllly strange. The previous setup was also extended (granted, using wireless only, not ethernet > wireless) and worked fine, granted it was a smidge slow, but it worked.I wanted to add this.. I followed the guide here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4260 to extend using ethernet, and the above is the result.
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Airport Extreme with Airport Express for extending WiFi Network...
I have had an iMac for quite a few years now and never needed WiFi until this week. I purchased a Macbook Air, an Airport Extreme and an Airport Express over the last 24 hrs. I opened the Airport Extreme first and followed the somewhat easy installation procedures. My iMac is wired via Ethernet cable to my Airport Extreme. The Airport Extreme is connected to a Motorola Cable Modem using Time-Warner. I also happen to have a Verizon Network Extender connected via Ethernet cable to the Airport Extreme. The spot where I most frequently would be using the Macbook Air, is about as far away from my iMac and Airport Extreme Base Network Router as you could be. The WiFi works, shows only one bar on the Airport icon. Consequently I want to plug my Airport Express in near this location to give me a better WiFi signal (and thus perhaps faster performance). I have read both the Airport Express Manual and the Airport Extreme Manual but neither talks all that much about the network extension function with the exception of connecting a stereo to an existing WiFi network. I am wondering what the specific steps are to add the Airport Express as a Network Extender. I also wonder if my Macbook Air will be able to access my iMac as the iMac is connected via Ethernet to the Airport Extreme vs. using the Airport Network. Any help will be most appreciated.
Julie Kruyne wrote:
I am trying to do the exact same thing and am having some difficulties.
It was easier for "WiseJD" because he was using two Apple base stations, instead of your AT&T router.
I select Manual Setup, it just sits there thinking - I can't get into the actual set up.
So you see the Express in AirPort Utility, but when you select it and select "Manual Setup", nothing happens?
When setting up the Express to extend my existing wireless network (AT&T 2WIRE modem and Airport Extreme), do I initially connect the Express, via Ethernet cable, to the modem or the Extreme?
I'll guess that the AT&T device is connected to your broadband connection. Is the 2WIRE device either without Wi-Fi support or is that turned off? How is the Extreme configured, in particular in the AirPort/Wireless panel "Wireless Mode" setting and in the Internet/Internet Connection panel, "Connection Sharing" setting?
If anyone could provide a step by step process on exactly how to set up the Express to extend my existing network, I would be grateful.
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when extending my wifi network using an Extreme as my main and an Express to extend.. does it help to make sure that both devices are on the same channel or does it even make a difference if they are on different channels?
Have you even tried the process in which i have described in my previous post?
Yes, many times. If you are setup to "extend a wireless network, the screen looks like this:
If you click the Wireless Options button, the screen looks like this:
Where is it on this screen that you see a setting to adjust the channel? It sounds like you are confusing "create a wireless network"....which does allow you to adjust channels.....with "exend a wireless network" which does not.
Normally, when you extend a wireless network, AirPort Utility used to always assign the same channel to the extending device. That is no longer the case. It might be the same, or it might be different. You have no control over this, so you have to accept what AirPort Utility thinks is best. -
Extending a Gen 5 Extreme with an early model Express
I have been running a Gen 2 Extreme with a WDS extension setup for my early model 802 a/b/g Express. When I replaced my Gen 2 Extreme with the newest Gen 5, the Airport Utility screens have changed and don't appear to offer options to identify my Express as an extention.
Need some thoughts on how to deal with this.
ThanksThe key is to use the Option key before making the Wireless Mode selection for the 5G AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn). You should find the familar "Participate in a WDS network" option when you do.
You should be aware that there are two major drawbacks of using this earlier "static" WDS configuration:
The extended network will only operate in the 802.11g radio mode. Effectively, negating the advantage of your new AEBSn.
For every base station added to the WDS, the overall bandwidth will be cut in half. So, in your case, you'll only be getting around 25 - 27 Mbps. A far cry short of the 300+ Mbps that the AEBSn is capable of. -
What are the downsides to extending an Airport Express's network with Airport Extreme?
Or are there downsides at all, assuming latest generation Airports? I think it happens more often than not that the position of the modem from your ISP in the dwelling is not the ideal location for a router, and it is sometimes inconvenient/impossible to wire an ethernet connection to the optimal location. I have an Airport Extreme and an Airport Express, and was thinking of hooking up the Express to the modem and having the Extreme extend that network, placed at the optimal router location. My concern with that setup is whether the Extreme will use all of its antennas, since the Express has fewer (6 vs 2 if I'm correct).
Or are there downsides at all, assuming latest generation Airports?
There are none. You might be confusing such a "wirelessly extended" network with a WDS, which was a horrible compromise with significant disadvantages.
The optimal location for the second AirPort might not be obvious. Keep in mind that it can only "wirelessly extend" the signal it is capable of receiving. Place it in a location where the wireless signal created by the main router remains strong, while still being able to create a network that covers your required wireless service area.
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Best way to extend WiFi network with extreme and express using access contr
I just got my new AirPort Extreme and configured it to use 2,4 and 5 GHz. I also would like to use Access control. When I configure my AirPort Express to extend my network I see two strange things happen.
1. On both devices I have to configure access control. I figured this is an extension of the Extreme, the Express uses the same list
2. When I finished configuring I see the Extreme and Express flash heavily green and my wired network is becoming extreme slow. I think the two devices are talking to each other, but packets are dropping??
I tried a hard and soft reset of the both devices, no solution.
Does anyone recognize this problem and maybe you can tell me what the best way is to configure both devices.
Is there also a way to configure WEP instead of WPA for using my Nintendo DS.
The firmware I use is 7.5.2I just got my new AirPort Extreme and configured it to use 2,4 and 5 GHz. I also would like to use Access control. When I configure my AirPort Express to extend my network I see two strange things happen.
1. On both devices I have to configure access control. I figured this is an extension of the Extreme, the Express uses the same list
2. When I finished configuring I see the Extreme and Express flash heavily green and my wired network is becoming extreme slow. I think the two devices are talking to each other, but packets are dropping??
I tried a hard and soft reset of the both devices, no solution.
Does anyone recognize this problem and maybe you can tell me what the best way is to configure both devices.
Is there also a way to configure WEP instead of WPA for using my Nintendo DS.
The firmware I use is 7.5.2 -
I've had one Airport Express G2 running smoothly for months and now trying to extend it with a second Express over LAN cables (ie join existing network). When doing this I get "Unexpected error occurred. Try again." error and then the working base station goes offline (wifi down).
I have tried various ways of going about this and sometimes managed to bring the second one online to try different configs. But it only stays online briefly before both devices go offline (up and down constantly).
Also tried restarted the process from scratch on both devices several times but keep landing up with the same result as soon the second device gets connected.
Any ideas?
thanksYou do not indicate whether you are trying to configure the extending AirPort with an iPhone or iPad....or....with a Mac or PC.
Can you provide a bit more information in that regard?
Assuming that you are using an iPhone / iPad for the setup, or a recent Mac......the setup utility will practically configure the extending AirPort for you automatically. All that you really need to do is name the device and the setup "wizard" takes over from there.
While the utility might initially indicate that the AirPort Express will be setup to extend the network, the real key is checking to make sure that the next setup screen indicates that the AirPort is being configured to extend using Ethernet. If you don't see extend using Ethernet, then the setup will not be correct.
Once the extending AirPort has been setup, if you then go back into AirPort Utility to check the setting for the extending AirPort, the actual setting for the AirPort will be "Create a wireless network". -
i want to extend my wirless range i using airport extreme upstairs and airport express down i have ethernet cable linking the two but airport express seems to go wireless and is extremly slow any help appreciated
Start with a "hard reset" of your Express - press and hold its reset button continuously, about five seconds, until its LED flashes rapidly. You will need to reconfigure all its settings.
Connect it to your Extreme with your Ethernet cable. Using AirPort Utility, configure its Internet Connection to "Connect Using" > "Ethernet" as in the following screenshot:
If it had been previously configured to "join" a wireless network and you connect its Ethernet cable to your wired LAN, you may experience what you are describing.
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