Forecast Consumption in SNP for Make-to-Order products

We are working on using APO-SNP for Make-to-order products (PlngStrategyGroup = "81" in R/3). We want to achieve normal forecast consumptino on FinishedGoodLevel and generate PlndOrders which shall derive component demand for purchasing (such PlndOrers wont be released to production - they should only function as demand driven on component level)
What we have done so far: Forecast in APO-DP on Finished good level exists and has been released to SNP. The product gets "ciffed" from R/3 into APO material master with planning strategy group "20" (which is basically "make-to-stock") --> we were hoping this would allow us to use "normal" forecast consumption but nothing happens (FCST is not being consumpted by open Sales orders). Within the product view of such products APO is still "realizing" that this is a make-to-order product.
Any other ideas / thoughts what could be done to achieve "normal" forecast consumption on FGI level for make-to-order products in APO-SNP ?
Tks !

I checked in /n/SAPAPO/RRP3 (Product View), unfortunately only FC exists there
Seems that the open Sales Orders from R/3 are being created within another segment (the "element" Tab of RRP3 shows 2 segments:
1) "Make-to-stock" (which contains the FC)
2) "Make-to-order" (which contains the Sales Orders)
That might explain the issue I see (FC and SOs are in different planning segment --> no consumption). Reading about planning segments in the help sounds like I need to find a way to bring Sales Orders for Make-to-Order products into the Make-to-stock segment ... jus a thought .. any idea how to do this ? Does that mean I need to modify the CIF for Sales Order transfer for Make-to-order products ?
Tks
Thomas

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I checked the note - there is only point 9 in the list saying:
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