Form Based Authentication in Tomcat, getting login and password

Sorry for my English.
How I can guess login and password strings of an user, from error page (JSP)using "Form Based Authentication of Tomcat"?
I need know it to lock the count each 3 error tries (if login is ok but
password is bad, insteed).
Methods 'getRemoteUser', 'isUserInRole' and 'getUserPrincipal' of
HttpServletRequest interface have this result: If no user has been
authenticated, returns null, false and null respectly. For this reason, they aren't utils for me.
If I don�t know login what user writed, I can't lock his/her count.
Exist solution for this? Thanks

hi i am also facing the same problem. could u please tell me how u overcame the situation ?
u will reallly pull me out of my troubles
thanx in advance
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