Format Size vs. Current Size

I hope I don't complicate this too much...here is the deal:
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Frame Size: 720 x 480 (which makes no sense to me because it is a 16:9 video)
Vid Rate: 29.97
Compressor: DV/DVcPRO - NTSC
Data Rate: 3.6 MB/sec
Pixel Aspect: NTSC - CCIR 601
So I take that video and clip here and clip there and then export out of FC using the "Current Settings" (gives me a .mov file). When I open the clip up in Quicktime it displays normally for me on my Mac. It says the Format is: DV, 720 x 480 (853 x 480), Millions 16-bit Integer (Little Endian), Stereo, 48.000 kHz. But the weird part to me is that it says the current size is 853 x 480 (which is 16:9).
When I compress it down to an MPEG4 with Compressor it looks good on the Mac but as soon as I upload it and play it through a browser it reverts back to a 4:3 squished look. Also if I play it through QT on a PC it does the same thing. However, I can open the same file on the Mac and it looks just fine. It seems the difference has something to do with the Format Size vs. the Current Size.
I'm stuck...I want this to look good but it just is not happening. What am I missing?

720 x 480 NTSC is rectangle pixels for TV displays. 853x480 is square pixels for computer displays. When you compress to MPEG-4 in Compressor go to the Geometry tab and set the size to 853x480. The Pixel Aspect will automatically change to square.
You may if you want too, turn on Frame Control and set the Resize Filter to Better. This will give a better size conversion and add a little time to the MPEG-4 compression.

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