Former Budgeting Vs BCS

Hi Guys,
We have to configure the "Funds Management" Module for our client. What would you guys suggest we should opt for
1. Former Budgeting
2. Budget Control Systems
Appreciate and value your suggestion and if some one has the latest documentaion available for BCS, can you please forward or atleast tell us where to look for it.
Regards
Saqib

Hi Saqib,
Please find below mentiones some important point wise comaprison of both BCS Vs budgeting.
BCS:The functions in this component support budget planning, budget execution and allow you to monitor the availability of funds.The budget control system (BCS) in Funds Management is an alternative to former budgeting. BCS is designed to allow flexible customer-specific adjustments to all important functions. BCS is SAPs strategic budgeting tool.
Implementation Considerations:If you use the Grants Management component integrated with Funds Management, only BCS fulfills the prerequisites necessary for this. This also applies if you want to work with funded programs for the account assignment. The required FM account assignment elements Grant and Funded Program are only supported in BCS.
SAP does not intend BCS and Former Budgeting to be used at the same time. Therefore, menu transactions, functions and the necessary Customizing are separate.
If you want to use the budget control system as an operative budgeting tool in Funds Management, you must activate this in the Customizing of Funds Management, under Basic Settings->Activate Global Functions for Budget Control System ( BCS).
Integration:All other FM master data is also supported in BCS, as well grant and funded program master data.
BCS includes an integrated planning tool with basis functions for budget planning. If you want to use comprehensive budget planning, you can exchange data with SAPs Strategic Enterprise Management.
You can use BCS together with Position Budgeting and Control (PA-PM-PB).
The Business Information Warehouse System (BW) is intended as a comprehensive reporting tool for the budget control system, starting from Release 3.0B. You can upload your BCS planning data from BW. BCS only works with Funds Management and Grants Management, not with other components that can also budget.
Features: You can select the relevant FM account assignments as budget addresses and posting addresses from the entirety of the master data combinations, by using the functions of the Budget Structure.
·        Budget distribution and the assignment of posting addresses, budget addresses and availability control objects in BCS depends on the master data hierarchy, which you can define as you wish by using derivation strategies defined in Customizing.
·        Customer-definable budget types, entry document types and consistency checks in BCS Budgeting allow you to map the requests of your organization in the system.
·        Budget entry and budget update activities are based on documents and are logged in budget entry documents. You display and maintain these in the Budgeting Workbench.
·        Status Management allows you to subdivide the budget execution process in individual budgeting phases and define specific user roles through different authorization assignments.
·        The BCS Availability Control is a flexible tool that you can customize to monitor and compare budget values and commitment/actual values. This control allows you to use independent availability control checks simultaneously.
Restrictions:The budget control system delivered with the Enterprise-Release (EA-PS 1.10) is new and will be enhanced with additional functions in following releases.Functions such as revenues increasing the budget and releases are supported with release EA-PS 2.00. SAP also provides support for migration from Former Budgeting to BCS.
Note that BCS reporting functions are not designed for comprehensive management reporting. You must use the Business Information Warehouse system as of Release 3.0B. BCS is not intended for use by German Government customers.Because of the reasons given above, SAP recommends that you analyze your organizations existing functions and requirements.
Hope I had been able to help you. Please assign points.
Rgds
Manish

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