FORMER BUDGETING

Hi Experts,
We did all required settings for Former budgeting in R/3 4.7. Without any budget also system post the documetns. Can u please note me,is there ny programes required to run to check available control ?
Rgds
Suma.....

There is some problem in R/3.We executed SAP suggested program

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  • Difference between Former budgeting and Budget Control System.

    Dear experts,
    I am looking for a document/guide which can explain the salient feature of BCS and how the same is more beneficial compared to Former budgeting.
    Additionally, help is also sought on how to migrate from former budgeting to BCS upon upgrade in ECC 6.0?
    Thanks in advance.
    Manoj

    Hi Manoj,
    You can follow this link.
    http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/a6/17f53b9f150248e10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
    It explains clearly the benefits of BCS as well as migration tools that SAP provides. If you do not have some non-standard enehancements in your Former Budgeting, then migration won't be a problem.
    Regards,
    Eli

  • Budget control system and former budgeting

    Dear All,
    Can anyone tell me the main difference between former budgeting and BCS.
    Kind Regards,
    Rajini.

    Hi,
    BCS is more flexible solution with much more firendly interface and many features in term of availability control. http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/a6/17f53b9f150248e10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
    Regards,
    Eli

  • Migration from FB (Former Budgeting) to BCS - Commitments/Actuals

    Dear Experts,
    We are going to migrate our system from FB (Former Budgeting) to BCS, in the middle of the current year.
    The migration activities deal only with Budget data migration.   
    My question is:  How to migrate Commitments and Actuals ?   
    We use only Payment Budget
    Please advise
    Yaacov

    Dear Yaakov,
    Are you thoroughly clear on the concept and functionality of Budget Control System?
    Compared to FB, BCS provides changes to 2 main functionalities in PSM-FM:
    1, Budgeting/planning
    2, Availability Control (AVC)
    -> This means, that the processes / functionalities / technical details for commitments/actuals are not changed in any way by implementing / migrating BCS. 
    The BCS implementation changes the data structures for budgeting tables. That is why migration of data from old budget tables to new ones is needed (even this is not mandatory, if you choose to use old reports for old budget data). You can check budget table correspondency between FB and BCS here: http://help.sap.com/saphelp_rc10/helpdata/en/c3/2c344071c82b22e10000000a1550b0/content.htm
    The main point is, that commitment/actuals data is not changed, and thus no migration for those is possible (or needed). The commitments remain to be updated in table FMIOI and actuals in table FMIT. You just need to use the new BCS reports to view for example budget consumption when BCS has been activated (for example report FMRP_RW_BUDCON).
    Also, you might want to consider if the migration of the old budget data is overall an absolutely mandatory requirement. Technically, you do not need to run any migration, but you can use old FB reports for previous fiscal years and just simply load only future budgeting data into the BCS. At my customer it was decided that no migration is needed, and we went successfully live with BCS withtout any issues. For past fiscal years they will be using FB reports.
    Best regards,
    Mikko
    Edited by: Mikko Seppänen on Jan 2, 2012 9:28 AM
    Edited by: Mikko Seppänen on Jan 2, 2012 9:31 AM

  • Why upgrade from Former Budgeting to Budget Control System (BCS)

    Dear experts,
    My customer had upgraded his system to ECC6, and still uses the "Former Budgeting".
    I want the customer to consider implementing BCS instead.
    Please let me know where I can find the list of differences between FB and BCS, and the advantages of this act.
    Regards,
    Y.G.

    Hi Yaakov,
    You can look at this link:
    http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/7b/981b57da056c48904c8a9c0df67b51/frameset.htm
    Basically, the main advantage is more flexibility in availability control and key figures reporting. However, you should also consider the fact that Former Budgeting is not supported anymore by SAP in terms of developing new features; all the development is done now only in BCS.
    Regards,
    Eli

  • BCS vs Former Budgeting

    Hi Gurus,
    What's difference between BCS vs Former Budgeting  We are using version 6 and planning to implemnt fund management
    which way is better for the business and its advantages.
    Regards and Advance
    Bharath

    Hi,
    With no doubt go for BCS; former budgeting is not supported anymore by SAP (in terms of developing new features) and BCS is much more flexible and efficient in budget management.
    Here you can see the main differences (however there are more):
    http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/7b/981b57da056c48904c8a9c0df67b51/frameset.htm
    Regards,
    Eli

  • Former Budgeting Vs BCS

    Hi Guys,
    We have to configure the "Funds Management" Module for our client. What would you guys suggest we should opt for
    1. Former Budgeting
    2. Budget Control Systems
    Appreciate and value your suggestion and if some one has the latest documentaion available for BCS, can you please forward or atleast tell us where to look for it.
    Regards
    Saqib

    Hi Saqib,
    Please find below mentiones some important point wise comaprison of both BCS Vs budgeting.
    BCS:The functions in this component support budget planning, budget execution and allow you to monitor the availability of funds.The budget control system (BCS) in Funds Management is an alternative to former budgeting. BCS is designed to allow flexible customer-specific adjustments to all important functions. BCS is SAP’s strategic budgeting tool.
    Implementation Considerations:If you use the Grants Management component integrated with Funds Management, only BCS fulfills the prerequisites necessary for this. This also applies if you want to work with funded programs for the account assignment. The required FM account assignment elements Grant and Funded Program are only supported in BCS.
    SAP does not intend BCS and Former Budgeting to be used at the same time. Therefore, menu transactions, functions and the necessary Customizing are separate.
    If you want to use the budget control system as an operative budgeting tool in Funds Management, you must activate this in the Customizing of Funds Management, under Basic Settings->Activate Global Functions for Budget Control System ( BCS).
    Integration:All other FM master data is also supported in BCS, as well grant and funded program master data.
    BCS includes an integrated planning tool with basis functions for budget planning. If you want to use comprehensive budget planning, you can exchange data with SAP’s Strategic Enterprise Management.
    You can use BCS together with Position Budgeting and Control (PA-PM-PB).
    The Business Information Warehouse System (BW) is intended as a comprehensive reporting tool for the budget control system, starting from Release 3.0B. You can upload your BCS planning data from BW. BCS only works with Funds Management and Grants Management, not with other components that can also budget.
    Features: You can select the relevant FM account assignments as budget addresses and posting addresses from the entirety of the master data combinations, by using the functions of the Budget Structure.
    ·        Budget distribution and the assignment of posting addresses, budget addresses and availability control objects in BCS depends on the master data hierarchy, which you can define as you wish by using derivation strategies defined in Customizing.
    ·        Customer-definable budget types, entry document types and consistency checks in BCS Budgeting allow you to map the requests of your organization in the system.
    ·        Budget entry and budget update activities are based on documents and are logged in budget entry documents. You display and maintain these in the Budgeting Workbench.
    ·        Status Management allows you to subdivide the budget execution process in individual budgeting phases and define specific user roles through different authorization assignments.
    ·        The BCS Availability Control is a flexible tool that you can customize to monitor and compare budget values and commitment/actual values. This control allows you to use independent availability control checks simultaneously.
    Restrictions:The budget control system delivered with the Enterprise-Release (EA-PS 1.10) is new and will be enhanced with additional functions in following releases.Functions such as revenues increasing the budget and releases are supported with release EA-PS 2.00. SAP also provides support for migration from Former Budgeting to BCS.
    Note that BCS reporting functions are not designed for comprehensive management reporting. You must use the Business Information Warehouse system as of Release 3.0B. BCS is not intended for use by German Government customers.Because of the reasons given above, SAP recommends that you analyze your organization’s existing functions and requirements.
    Hope I had been able to help you. Please assign points.
    Rgds
    Manish

  • Former Budgeting Support

    Hi All!
    Can anybody help? I'm looking for any sap note or official doc regarding support of Former Budgeting. I found some posting on scn that it was not supported (new development) in 2009 already but failed to find any official info from sap. We need to know to start planing our transfer process to BCS (Budget Control System).
    Any info would be appreciated.
    Thank a lot!
    Sasha

    Hi Sasha,
    I don't think SAP have issued any official doc or SAP note regarding support for Former Budgeting.SAP is still giving support for former budgeting.
    But you can check sap note 880858, in this note SAP says to use BCS for new customers.
    Regards,
    Ankit K. Agarwal

  • Steps to migrate from former budgeting to BCS

    can any one suggest the complete steps to migrate from former budgeting to BCS and what are the steps which are to specially cared of.

    Hi,
    Follow these instructions:
    http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/7b/981b57da056c48904c8a9c0df67b51/frameset.htm
    They are quite complete and if you do not have any specific developments in your SAP system, then you should not encounter any problem during the migration process.
    Regards,
    Eli

  • AVC in Former Budgeting in document chain

    Hi all,
    We are working on former budgeting in ECC 6.0, every setting for AVC have been completed, including condition u201CAlways checku201D in u201CMaintain Availability Controlu201D.
    We would like that the AVC executes in every activity of the document chain.
    e.g.: If we have a PR for 1,000 USD, when we are creating a PO for that PR, we need to check the budget only on that predecessor PR document.
    Desired scenario
    PR for USD 1,000
    The available budget is USD 5,000
    The user tries to create a PO for USD 1,200 with reference to that PR
    The system should issue an error message saying that there is an exceeding amount for USD 200
    Thanks in advance,
    Adriana

    Hi Adriana,
    This requirement has nothing to do with FM. FM checks availability on budget and not on the documents. You can consult your MM consultant to lock the possibility of opening PO on the bigger amount than PR. FM-AVC (former or BCS - does not matter) will check against 5,000 in your case; so with the PO in the sample the overall consumption would be 1,200 (still 3,800 available budget left).
    Regards,
    Eli

  • Former Budget Tables

    Hi,
    Can any  one help in which table we can find Commitment item for the budget enter along with fund center and amount (Entry document or Hierarchy Document data).
    I have checked the following tables, none of the table have the account number, only fund center is available. 
    Former Budgeting Tables
    BPBK      Hierarchy document header
    BPDK      Entry document header
    BPEJ     Hierarchy documt lines for annual budget
    BPDZ     Entry document lines
    Thanks & Regards,
    Venkat

    Hi,
    Please check the tables
    FMBL, FMBH, FMBDT
    Anil

  • Commitment carryforward (Former budgeting)

    Dear all,
    After having upgraded from 4.6C to ECC 6.0, we tried to cancel commitment carryforward (RFFMCCFR) and we obtained the following message : "no item found for the reversal of the commitment carryforward". Table FMIOI is well updated with amount type 0350.
    Can u help me ?
    Thanks

    Hello Jean-Didier,
    After an upgrade, table FMIT might not be correctly updated, and this may also cause problems  in CF processes.
    Please have a look at this note and follow its instructions:
    977016 FMIT: Missing totals records in Funds Management
    check whether RFFMRC04 shows any inconsistency and let  us know, Ok?
    thanks and best regards, Mar

  • Migration from Former budgeting to BCS

    Dear experts,
    is there anybody who has experience with migration from FB to BCS?
    If yes, which method have you used - from scratch, migrating totals or migrating documents and what
    problems have you met during the course of migrating?
    Thank you in advance,
    Toni

    Hi,
    I did this migration in some 8-10 projects; all sorts of methods. Normally, if you follow the steps which are described in help.sap.com you should not encounter any problems, if you have no special developments done in FM.
    Regards,
    Eli

  • Logical DB FMF and BCS budgeting system

    Hi,
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  • Budget control - Assigned funds are less than payment budget for fiscal year in document item

    Dear Experts,
    We are using Former budgeting, when ever we run the transaction FMBV getting the following message to a particular user.
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    If not, please update, otherwise please make this thread as answered.
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    Kind regards, Mar.

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