Forms 4.5 to 10g upgrade project

Hello All,
My client asked me to upgrade its Oracle Forms 4.5 to the latest Oracle Forms 10g. in my 4 years as a Oracle forms developer I never taken any project that will lead to upgrade. I surf the Forms upgrade center but confused about steps to be taken for upgrade.
My questions are:
1. When upgrading from 4.5 to 10g is WebUtil is the required tool or are there any other tools out there for upgrade projects?
2. Why to upgrade 4.5 to 6i(web) first instead of upgrading directly to 10g?
3. How long it will take for upgrade? Currently the client has 45 forms.
I appreciated for your reply
Thanks!
Rashid

1. It depends on your current forms if you need webutil or not. If you have client actions in your forms, like HOST or OLE, you need to convert those to webutil.
2. You can upgrade to 10g if you do it manually (i.e. open the fmb in Forms Builder and do the appropriate actions). The step to 6i first is only needed if you use the migration assistant I believe.
3. Do a test with one form and see how long it takes and then make an estimate for the total project.
I did a manual upgrade and started with one form per day, speeding up to 2-3 forms when the returning issues were resolved. There is a thread a few days ago about changing colours, for instance. That was something that took us a while too to figure out, but easily done in the migration once we knew what to do.

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Edited by: Alvaro Tejada Galindo on Dec 23, 2008 10:39 AM

Hi Pradeep,
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