Forms 9i and Web Services.

Hello,
We are currently evaluating an integration architecture that is based on consuming complex web services through Oracle Forms 9i (9.0.2) / 9iAS (9.0.2) / RDBMS 9i (9.0.2....)
The current group of WS exposes up to 23 methods which would be required to be displayed on the form. Call-outs to the Web Service have been minimised through navigation to a single form making the call and then storing the information locally.
I have read a number of articles related to the Java Importer that advises against consuming EJB's or PJC on the oracle form - written in 2001/2.
The question then is, does the bottleneck in between Forms C code and the JNI bridge still hold true - or have Oracle improved the issue since early 2002?
The alternative is to create Java Stored Procedures to call-out to the Web Service, or again alternatively to use the native UTL_HTTP in the database to make the calls (but this last option seems messy - even with prior understanding of the java client).
Does anybody have any experience with evaluating these two methods for integration or experiences that indicate one method over the other.
The early phase will only have a usage of 15 - 20 clients, but near term is 500.

Hi,
the current impact that runtime processes have when calling out to the Java importer is that you implicitly launch one VM per user on the server which has a price in terms of memory required.
This gets addressed ion the first patch set of the upcoming OracleAS Forms Services 10g release where different Forms runtime processes can be configured to share the same VM thus reducing the memory requirement.
I suggest to use the Java Importer and then later move to OracleAS Forms Services when it gets available. All you need to do then, beside of configuring the shared VMs, is to reimport the Java classes used in the form.
check
http://otn.oracle.com/products/forms/pdf/formsj2ee_business.pdf
The Forms9i demos contain a Webservices example using teh Java Importer
http://download.oracle.com/otn/other/general/forms9iDemos9_0_0_1.zip
Fran

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     at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
     at com.sap.engine.core.thread.impl3.SingleThread.execute(SingleThread.java:94)
     at com.sap.engine.core.thread.impl3.SingleThread.run(SingleThread.java:162)

I have the same message. I am running sp11.
Does anyone have an answer for this?????
>>> Warning: delete security configuration [apps/avalero.com/rtfa-ear/contextRoot]
[EXCEPTION]
java.lang.Exception
     at com.sap.engine.services.security.server.PolicyConfigurations.unregisterPolicyConfiguration(PolicyConfigurations.java:153)
     at com.sap.engine.services.servlets_jsp.server.container.WebContainerHelper.removeSecurityResources(WebContainerHelper.java:905)
     at com.sap.engine.services.servlets_jsp.server.container.WebContainerHelper.remove(WebContainerHelper.java:447)
     at com.sap.engine.services.servlets_jsp.server.container.RemoveAction.remove(RemoveAction.java:50)
     at com.sap.engine.services.servlets_jsp.server.container.WebContainer.remove(WebContainer.java:150)
     at com.sap.engine.services.deploy.server.application.RemoveTransaction.removeApplication(RemoveTransaction.java:294)
     at com.sap.engine.services.deploy.server.application.RemoveTransaction.prepare(RemoveTransaction.java:178)
     at com.sap.engine.services.deploy.server.application.ApplicationTransaction.makeAllPhasesOnOneServer(ApplicationTransaction.java:299)
     at com.sap.engine.services.deploy.server.application.ApplicationTransaction.makeAllPhases(ApplicationTransaction.java:323)
     at com.sap.engine.services.deploy.server.DeployServiceImpl.makeGlobalTransaction(DeployServiceImpl.java:3033)
     at com.sap.engine.services.deploy.server.DeployServiceImpl.remove(DeployServiceImpl.java:821)
     at com.sap.engine.services.deploy.server.DeployRuntimeControlImpl.remove(DeployRuntimeControlImpl.java:271)
     at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
     at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
     at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
     at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:324)
     at com.sap.pj.jmx.introspect.DefaultMBeanInvoker.invoke(DefaultMBeanInvoker.java:58)
     at com.sap.pj.jmx.mbeaninfo.AdditionalInfoProviderMBean.invoke(AdditionalInfoProviderMBean.java:289)
     at com.sap.pj.jmx.server.MBeanServerImpl.invoke(MBeanServerImpl.java:944)
     at com.sap.pj.jmx.server.interceptor.MBeanServerWrapperInterceptor.invoke(MBeanServerWrapperInterceptor.java:288)
     at com.sap.engine.services.jmx.CompletionInterceptor.invoke(CompletionInterceptor.java:400)
     at com.sap.pj.jmx.server.interceptor.BasicMBeanServerInterceptor.invoke(BasicMBeanServerInterceptor.java:277)
     at com.sap.jmx.provider.ProviderInterceptor.invoke(ProviderInterceptor.java:255)
     at com.sap.engine.services.jmx.RedirectInterceptor.invoke(RedirectInterceptor.java:340)
     at com.sap.pj.jmx.server.interceptor.MBeanServerInterceptorChain.invoke(MBeanServerInterceptorChain.java:330)
     at com.sap.engine.services.jmx.MBeanServerSecurityWrapper.invoke(MBeanServerSecurityWrapper.java:287)
     at com.sap.engine.services.jmx.MBeanServerInvoker.invokeMbs(MBeanServerInvoker.java:157)
     at com.sap.engine.services.jmx.ClusterInterceptor.invokeMbs(ClusterInterceptor.java:220)
     at com.sap.engine.services.jmx.ClusterInterceptor.invoke(ClusterInterceptor.java:803)
     at com.sap.engine.services.jmx.MBeanServerInterceptorInvoker.invokeMbs(MBeanServerInterceptorInvoker.java:102)
     at com.sap.engine.services.jmx.connector.p4.P4ConnectorServerImpl.invokeMbs(P4ConnectorServerImpl.java:61)
     at com.sap.engine.services.jmx.connector.p4.P4ConnectorServerImplp4_Skel.dispatch(P4ConnectorServerImplp4_Skel.java:64)
     at com.sap.engine.services.rmi_p4.DispatchImpl._runInternal(DispatchImpl.java:294)
     at com.sap.engine.services.rmi_p4.DispatchImpl._run(DispatchImpl.java:183)
     at com.sap.engine.services.rmi_p4.server.P4SessionProcessor.request(P4SessionProcessor.java:119)
     at com.sap.engine.core.service630.context.cluster.session.ApplicationSessionMessageListener.process(ApplicationSessionMessageListener.java:37)
     at com.sap.engine.core.cluster.impl6.session.UnorderedChannel$MessageRunner.run(UnorderedChannel.java:71)
     at com.sap.engine.core.thread.impl3.ActionObject.run(ActionObject.java:37)
     at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
     at com.sap.engine.core.thread.impl3.SingleThread.execute(SingleThread.java:94)
     at com.sap.engine.core.thread.impl3.SingleThread.run(SingleThread.java:162)

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When can I use Mesage Monitoring and Sequence Monitoring .
We are making a proof a concept and we are the following.
1. A program which executes a proxy and with this proxy we are consuming a web services.
2. The proxy and web services were implemented in the same Abap Machine .
3. We execute the test and everything works very well and we consume the webservice and the program displays the expected result.
Now want to know How can we use the Message Monitoring and the Sequence Monitoring . Is this posible ? Do we have to make any previous configuration?
We don´t have any XI installation and for that we wonder if we can monitorize the webservices sequences ?
Any idea about if we can realize such king of actions ..
Many Thanks

hi,
short answer: you can't. to my knowledge there is no such thing as message/sequence monitoring outside of PI/XI.
the only thing you can do is to enable debugging and access some debugging info from ST22. other than that you do not have access to the original (XML) message, the HTTP headers or the ST(simple transformation) info or anything else.
regards,
anton

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Hi forummates,
In the traditional architecture, the communication between EJB is RMI/IIOP. Web Services can be looked as a communication between classes on SOAP/HTTP.
How should we use Web Services in J2EE in the maximum effeciency? Is there any good example of using Web Services in J2EE (1.4 is a must?) ? Please advise.
Lawrence.

Hi Lawrence,
I would look at the J2EE blueprints on web services to get started. You may also want to take a look at the J2EE tutorial and web services tutorial. Links below:
http://java.sun.com/blueprints/guidelines/designing_webservices/
http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/tutorial/doc/index.html
http://java.sun.com/webservices/docs/ea1/tutorial/

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If you want to use Struts and web services, what approach do you take? If you want to use reliable messaging,
you need to have a web service client as well as the web service being called.
What is the recommended way to set this up?
Do you call a local web service from the action class and then have that web service do all of the business logic including calling remote web services?
I am just starting to look at this so I am probably not close but I would like some guidance on what, in general, is the correct approach.

The jars you are referring to are not SAP BusinessObject specifics jars: struts and JiBX. There are open source java framework. For more information about the struts refer to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Struts
for more information about jibx refer to:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JiBX
Normally the core jars for a SAP BusinessObjects webservice SDK are:
The core jar files to use for Web Services Java SDK applications are:
dsws-bicatalog.jar
dsws-biplatform.jar
dsws-common.jar
dsws-publish.jar
dsws-queryservice.jar
dsws-reportengine.jar
dsws-saveservice.jar
dsws-session.jar
wilog.jar
And the jars you have mentioned are part of the
The dependent jar files to use for Web Services Java SDK applications are:
activation-1.1.jar
axiom-api-1.2.5.jar
axiom-impl-1.2.5.jar
axis2-kernel-1.3.jar
axis2-saaj-1.3.jar
axis2-xmlbeans-1.3.jar
backport-util-concurrent-2.2.jar
commons-codec-1.3.jar
commons-httpclient-3.0.1.jar
commons-logging-1.1.jar
log4j-1.2.14.jar
mail.jar
stax-api-1.0.1.jar
struts.jar
wsdl4j-1.6.2.jar
wstx-asl-3.2.1.jar
xbean-2.2.0.jar
XmlSchema-1.3.2.jar
In any cases it is recommended not to have duplicated jars in your deployment and also check if the version of the jars to use is supported by the version of the JDK used.
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