Forms configuration: web listener

Hello,
I installed Forms (patch 11, typical install, all default parameters) some time ago, and it asked me to configure the web listener, something like :
[ACTION] Please configure the following virtual path with your web listener: /dev60temp for
physical directory C:\orant\tools\web60\temp.
There were many like this.
Since I use only client-server, I didn't do anything, and it worked fine.
Now I'm on Forms Patch 13, and I still don't know what it is exactly, and how it can be done.
Thanks for your help.

All the information on how to configure Forms for the Web is in the docs. Visit the Oracle Forms Upgrade Center at http://otn.oracle.com/formsupgrade for the Oracle9i Forms configuration guide.
And if you are looking for 6i information look at the 6i documentation from the documentation link on OTN.
The steps in the messages refer to configuring the webdb listner that comes with 6i. You do them in the webdb cfg files.

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    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Joseph Schwertner ([email protected]):
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    Joseph Schwertner
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    Maur?cio Pacheco ([email protected])
    Joseph is right and I would like to add
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    reporting was far better in Forms than
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    give names). Perhaps this was a matter of
    training but Forms is really fast to
    develop database applications. If
    productivity, simplicity, database
    performance, data integrity and user
    functionality is not important don't use
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    Once more, Forms was not projected for public
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    thanks joseph. will try it and let you know at the earliest.
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