Forms vs UIX/ADF Faces ?

Hi,
We are considering to migrate Forms application into J2EE Web Apps (UIX or ADF Faces), using JHeadStart as rapid dev tool.
Does any body know, how is the UIX/ADF Faces performance compared to Forms, provided they are deployed on same IAS and network specification and bandwidth ?
Is it true that UIX/ADF Faces will need smaller bandwidth than Forms ?
Or are there any other reason that will justify us to migrate Forms into J2EE Web app ?
Thank you for your help,
xtanto

do not duplicate your question so much times...
UIX versus Swing
UIX
many of the old authors are not frequently here in the forum. Go to the JDeveloper-Forum

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