Formula pricing in IS-OIL

Hi, I want to simulate a formula pricing without create a purchase or sales document, does anybody know how?
Thanks in advance.

Hi Susana,
When you say you want to simulate formula pricing, i assume you meant Differential pricing after prov invoice is done. For that, you can make use of Pro-Forma invoice. Create a Z-program which will create proforma invoices for all you deliveries for which differential is not done. You can also run a BDC for the same.
Hope it answers your query.
Vikram

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I am currently working on e sourcing 7.0. Here there are new features provided in Rfx->Line Item setup called Formula Prcing and Line Item Formula
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Hi Shobha,
I hope members who have used this feature chime in. I am only playing with Formula Pricing because we are evaluating these as well.
I was not able to use the standard fields when using Formula Pricing.
I am retracting what I said in the last post, apologies, I made a mistake in the supplier response.
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Part 2 Total Freight Cost = 10 * 5 = 50
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