Fpga, Control and Simulation Module

Hello,
I am trying to implement control by Control and Simulation Module through NI CRIO 9024. The error message pops up when trying the run the RT vi.
Other vis which are not coded by the Control and Simulation Module can work properly. However, when it comes to the Control and Simulation Module, the error message pops up. Is there anything wrong with the installation of the Control and Simulation Module? Please let me know if you have an idea about that. I appreciate your help.

Hi Richard629,
As seen in this Knowledgebase article, you most likely do not have the Control Design and Simulation module installed on the controller. You can use NI Measurement & Automation Explorer to install the Control Design and Simulation module on your controller.
Regards,
Allison M.
Applications Engineer
National Instruments
ni.com/support

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Hi Rishabh,
Unfortunately, we do not have a version of Control Design and Simulation for x64. You can try to install the 32-bit version of LabVIEW instead on a 64-bit OS. This should allow you to install CD&SIM.
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Control design and simulation module

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I am new to Labview and i am trying to work on Control System design. I have downloaded and installed the Evaluation Module of Control Design and Simulation Module. The problem I am facing witht this is its not showing any control fuctions in functions Palette. While installing it said its installing only control design and simulation assistant. Please, can anyone help with this.
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The problem is the following. The version of LabVIEW that you are using does not match the version of the evaluation version of LabVIEW Control Design and Simulation Module (CD&SIM). If that happens, the installer will not select the support files for your LabVIEW. If you download LabVIEW 2011, then you must install CD&SIM 2011.
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I have had Labview downloaded for quite some time now. Downloaded control design and simulation module. Installed it. When i go to use it in the
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As Altenback said, It is very possible it expired or it needs activation. To see for sure, go to your "NI License Manager" and expand the Modules. you should see:
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I see that you posted to the DSC forum, but you did not get GSIM information. Below is the link for the user manual for the Control and Simulation Toolkit. It is the single best source for info on the toolkit.
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Do you truely have the 64bit version of LabVIEw installed?
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Hi Sankhadip,
Sorry for the late response. I was looking at your code and
I noticed that the graph scale does not start from zero. That might be the
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simply double click on the lower limit and set it to zero. If this is not the
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Attachments:
RS.vi ‏84 KB

Bin,
You should post this question to the page where you found the VI, and ask ADEEB or Al S what they used the VI for.
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Synchronize Control and Simulation loops

When simulating control systems with LV Control and Simulation loops, I often have multiple loops running at different rates. For example, I have a PWM loop running at 20 kHz, a data acquisition loop running at 100 kHz, and a control loop running at 10 kHz. How can I synchronize all of these loops so that they stay on the same time base? Obviously the master time base will need to be at least as fast as the fastest simulation loop.
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Go to Solution.

Hello,
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Please share what code you have so that we can see what you've tried and understand exactly what you're trying to do.

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Hi Adj;
Do you have more information on the LabVIEW and the control design and simulation toolkit you are using?
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He instalado el modulo de control design and simulation, pero en el progrma la paleta me sigue apareciendo vacia. Alguien sabria decirme por que no me aparecen las herramientas?
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I am using a LabVIEW Real-Time 2012 and a Desktop RIO for some real-time
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Go to Solution.

Hi Willy,
I am sorry, I can not upload the VI some of the content is confidential. I have attached a larger picture of the section were the change in volume and time is calculated, dV and dt. Also I have marked the two memory functions used. Hopefully this can help.
My parameters:
- ODE solver Adams-Moulton
- Relative tolerance      1e-8
- Absolute tolerance     1e-7
- Minimum step size 0,0005
- Maximum step size 0,01
- Initial step size         0,01
- Auto discrete time      On
- Decimation                 0
- Synz loop to timing source off
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How can I use the Control Design & Simulation module in the Mobile (PDA) modul?

Hi everyone!
I have to create Bode and Nyquist plot from Transfer function on a PDA, but I can't use CD&S Modul when I'm opening a new Mobile project.
Thank you for your answer!
Sincerely yours,
Jenő Kocsis

Jenő Kocsis wrote:
Hi everyone!
I have to create Bode and Nyquist plot from Transfer function on a PDA, but I can't use CD&S Modul when I'm opening a new Mobile project.
Thank you for your answer!
Sincerely yours,
Jenő Kocsis
Does it have to any transfer function? Or is it some limitations
Besides which, my opinion is that Express VIs Carthage must be destroyed deleted
(Sorry no Labview "brag list" so far)

Fpga, Control and Simulation Module

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