Fractal designs like these? Possible with any software?

Ok... There are two type of fractal/chaos images I'd like to make.. to import into photoshop for some work of mine..
I have the master suite (student edition) so if not photoshop illustrator would be fine, I'll convert to jpg for what I need.
1. A fractal/chaos design that appears to move (as an illusion) (jpg or normal image file)
http://www.moebiusnoodles.com/s/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/MovingFractalIllustion.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LUKFMS_Mz7g/TaCP29yiUfI/AAAAAAAAB9Y/7y1jMhPCteg/s1600/MovingFrac tal.jpg
Illusions - Fractal Illusions
2. A fractal/chaos animation, that loops back to where it started preferably not too long either.. (video or animated gif, that I can take the sequence into photoshop)
(doesn't have to seem as 3d rendered as this.. but similar to this..)
Surface detail on Vimeo
Any Ideas how this could be achieved?
Thanks
Adam

I just happen to know of a guy (through the net only) that dedicated a web site to fractal and software for creating fractals. Or I should say dedicated to mathmatical graphics.
The site hasn't done anything in quite a while but as far as i know all the links are still good.
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