Frame blend unaffective?

Hi all,
Here again, once again stumped with Premiere's unwillingness to work properly/consistently and unable to find any other forum threads about my problem.
What's going on is that the clip option "Frame Blend" is not seeming to have any effect on my render in CS4. In fact, when I take on and off, the state of the render remains the same. In other words, if I've rendered and it's green, I turn off frame blend, and it stays green. Turn back on, and it stays green. It's pretty obvious it's just broken-disconnected from affecting my clips, as it renders like a charm, quickly, and in the amount of same time whether or not Frame Blend is checked or not--and the playback of the render is clearly frame to frame. For example, if I slow it down to like 10% it's, step.... step... step... or about 3 frames a second.
The project is SD, the footage is HDV captured in Ppro as mpeg, it's on a OS X 10.5.6 .
Here's the kicker, the same project copy/paste from CS3 works just fine. No changes what so ever and my render time shoots up (as expected) and it actually renders the Frame Blend, producing smoothe video.
I would just export the whole thing out of CS3, but CS3 particularly likes to crash randomly through the export (I've tried a variety of output formats and the standard copy/paste into a new project, timeline, etc). Which is the reason I decided to take it to CS4 to begin with.
I'm going to try the last update for CS4 which apparently has to do with AVC-Intra.. but in the meantime I'd appreciate some help and advice.
Thanks!
- wb

I'm fully up to date, that was the first thing I tried to no avail. I was surprised that updating didn't fix it, I was expecting it to.
SFL, I had searched the forums and came up with nothing, hence my post beginning with 'unable to find any other forum threads about my problem'.
I'll mention again that a) the clips that aren't working have time remapping applied or constant time speed changes. For example, one clip variables from anywhere from 10% to a 80% or so speed change, and many of the clips have been stretched with the stretch rate tool to fit gaps. I wouldn't be able to tell if frame blending was working or not if the speed wasn't changed and still at 100%.
And b) frame blending is working fine in CS3. More details on this are above in my earlier posts, but basically the exact same sequence works in CS3 but doesn't work in CS4. So the circumstances haven't changed between it working and not working.
My vote is some sort of translation bug when updating a CS3 project to CS4. It also messed up a variety of other things (mentioned above) that made me decide to just go back to CS3 for the project and deal with the random export crashing.
Typical week using Adobe products powerful and sloppy. Thanks for the responses all,
- wb

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