Frame blending issue in timeline

For some reason the video in my timeline and in the canvas has the previous frame blended into the current frame (every other resolution line). This makes the picture choppy with horizontal lines especially with fast movements. This issue doesn't show up when I put the video in the viewer but it is still there when the final project is exported. I have tried to tweak with the settings for a long time now and I haven't had any luck. Does anyone know how to fix this issue? It's driving me insane!

Al,
This clip is raw footage captured from a miniDv tape. But I have this issue with High 8 and other sources. The only format that doesn't seem to have that issue is DV from dvd clips that I ripped.
This Sequence properties:
Vid Rate: 29.97 fps
Frame Size: 720 x 480
Compressor: DV/DVCPRO - NTSC
Dat Rate: (blank)
Pixel Aspect: NTSC - CCIR 601
Anamorphic: (not checked)
Field Dominance: Lower (Even)
Alpha: (blank)
Reverse Alpha: (not checked)
Composite: (blank)
Clip Properties:
Vid Rate: 29.97 fps
Frame Size: 720 x 480
Compressor: DV/DVCPRO - NTSC
Data Rate: 3.6 MB/sec
Pixel Aspect: NTSC - CCIR 601
Anamorphic: (not checked)
Field Dominance: Lower (Even)
Alpha: None/Ignore
Reverse Alpha: (not checked)
Composite: Normal
I just noticed that this issue doesn't show up until I drag the clip into the sequence. If I just double click it from the browser into the viewer it looks perfect. I have a screenshot of this issue if it helps, I just don't know how to upload it into this message.
Thanks for your help!
-Ted

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Message was edited by: avideditor

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