Frame by frame animation, trying again

or something wrong with the way I am asking it? Mainly I want
to know if am am even using the right tool for this task. And why
the helll this is not working?
I am doing a frame by frame animation of something I brought
in from Illustrator. I have 20 keyframes, each with one (slightly
different) symbol. I need this to move accross the screen.
How does one do it, I must be missing something, this must
come up all the time in frame by frame animation. I need the
symbols to be distribited exactly same distance apart.
I tried using the "align/distribute" feature the same way I
know it from illustrator, and it is just kind of working. I check
"edit all frames" make sure all the keyframes are selected and then
go to the align panel and distribute the centers of all symbols.
What goes wrong is this: it distributes them, but out of
order. Instead of putting frame 2 couple pixels to the right from
frame 1, it puts it right at the end where I would like the frame
#20. the middle then seems in the right order but beginning and end
are always mixed up.
Is the distribute feature the best way of doing this , and
why am I having this problem?

thank you so much for talking to me. I didn't realize
tweening applied to frame by frame animation. So I create a motion
tween btw each key frame?
What I don't understand is: I want to be able to take the
symbol in the last keyframe, drag it away from the rest of the
symbols that are all aligned, and then get them to distribute
automaticaly in their own keyframes. This is really done best
through tweening? I thought this would only worked if all the in
between steps were not keyframes.
When I select all the keyframes at once and tween them they
do not distribute.
But I am probably not doing this right, I don't have time to
experiment right now, I just wanted to say thanks.

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