Frame Controls Settings

Hi,
I've made a FCP document captured in Sony HD1080i60. It's 22 min. in color.
Next I try to export this document using compressor.
My setting is at DVD Best Quality 90 min NTSC 29.97.
My QUESTION: Frame Controls.
Apparently, if Frame Controls, Resizing Filter and the Deinterlace is all chosen at 'Best', it will take 504 hours (according to the compressor).
If my objective is to have this played on anyone's home DVD player, is there much of a difference in quality? If anyone has any recommendation for my setting, please.
Thank you all in advance.
M

Mugiho
You can find the answer by yourself and tell us later: select just a very short section/s of your movie (15/20 secs) and encode it using different settings. Select some "potentially problematic" parts, like with fast movements, etc.
No matter how low could be the encoding, it will take a short time and you can compare the final quality.
Hope that helps !
  Alberto

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