Frame Rate Export-Playback Issue

Hello,
I'm relatively new to FCP 7.
But here's the problem..I have a timeline with the following sequence settings:
720p
H.264
50fps
But somehow whenever I export it in .MOV it seems to have a playback issue. All my audio gets jumbled up..it isn't synced anymore.
Doesn't seem to have a issue when I export in .3gp or in .m4v
Can someone help?
Thank you.

Yup...that's a problem. FCP and H.264 don't mix. Sync issues, export issues...don't edit H.264 native in FCP, period. If you use FCP 7 or earlier, you MUST convert your footage to an editing codec, like ProRes. And use ProRes sequence settings.
A quick fix you can try is to go into the sequence settings, change the COMPRESSOR to ProRes 422...and render the sequence, then export.

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