Framework Orders - Overall Limit

Hi SAP Experts!
I have an issue with Framework Orders and more specific on the Fields
"Expected Value" and "Overall Limit".
Below is an example of the issue:
I have an FO where the Expected Value is R$200.000,00 and the Overall
Limit is 1.510.100,00.
When it was released, the approval were done using the Expected Value and
not the Overall Limit. If the approval was defined using Overall Limit it
should be set up a diferent release strategy.
I would like to know if there is any way to put an blockage on Overall
Limit that does not accept value different of Expected  Value. Both
values must be the same.
Could you please help me with that?
Kind Regards,
Tâmara Oliveira.

Logically if both expected and overall limit need to be same, then we dont need to have two different fields. Both fields have different purpose and it doesn't a best practise to make the system to equal overall limit and expected limit.
Is it not a best way to change your release to pick the overall limit instead of expected value?

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