Freezes, kernal panics, long startup, hanging on blue screen...

sometimes on black screen, freezing when desktop appears, freezing when
using Safari and Mail, text edit and have not had a chance to see what it does in other programs.
This had been a growing problem from the first kernal panic I had about month ago after a complete reinstall in December. Also the fans run loud.
After reading more about kernal panics, i'm beginning to think this is a hardware problem and I should replace by RAM with what was built for this
G5. I cleaned it out yesterday. it was pretty dusty because it sits on the floor. Would a professional cleaning be in order?
I think I'm asking: what software approaches should I take and what physical approaches should I take to isolate the problem the soonest. Can someone send me a list off Apple's site and I'll start to go through them before I have to, yuck, reinstall all over again?
Thanks guys.
If this helps:
kernal version: 8.11.0 wed oct 10...2007
root:xnu-792.24.17~1 release_ppl panic: we are hanging here

Since I just ran the test recently, I was pretty certain it was the C key. Copied here directly from the User Guide on this iMac G5. (But maybe it's different for the Tower, which this seems to be.)
"Using Apple Hardware Test
You can use Apple Hardware Test to help determine if there is a problem with your
computer’s hardware.
To use Apple Hardware Test:
1 Disconnect all external devices from your computer except the keyboard and mouse.
If you have an Ethernet cable connected, disconnect it.
2 Insert the “Additional Software & Apple Hardware Test” disc that came with your
computer.
3 Restart your computer and hold down the “C” key as it starts up. A list of available
startup volumes appears. Click Apple Hardware Test and click the right arrow.
4 When the Apple Hardware Test main screen appears after about 45 seconds, follow the
onscreen instructions.
5 If Apple Hardware Test detects a problem, it displays an error code. Make a note of the
error code before pursuing support options. If Apple Hardware Test does not detect a
hardware failure, the problem may be software related.
For more information about Apple Hardware Test, see the Apple Hardware Test Read
Me file on the “Additional Software & Apple Hardware Test” disc."

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    With the flashed card:
    1. Shut off computer and unplugged it. Removed OEM video card and installed ATI 9800 card. Plugged the power supply cable for the card into the computer power supply cable and hard drive.
    Problem Occurs: When starting up, the grey screen comes up with the Apple on it, then the screen turns blue, where I typically would see the progress bar of the system loaded up before the user login screen. I only see a blue screen at this point but can hear the hard drive working for about a min.
    2. Restarted the computer in safe mode.
    3. Logged in as Admin user and opened the ATI preference pane to verify it sees the card.
    When the ATI preference pane was loaded the following error message occured:
    A startup problem has occured.
    Cannot connect to ATI TVOut Kernal Extension. Some features are not available.
    Clicked OK and the ATI preference pane appears.
    4. Close the preference pane and reinstalled ATI Displays 4.5.6. Restarted computer.
    Problem Occurs
    5. Restarted computer holding down AppleOption+PR to clear PRAM. Cleared the PRAM 4 times in a row, by allowing the chime to happen 4 times.
    Problem Occurs
    6. Shut computer down. Disconnected the DVI plug for the cinema display and connected a VGA CRT monitor. Started computer.
    Problem Occurs
    7. Shut computer down, disconnected the VGA CRT monitor. Reconnected DVI plug and restarted computer.
    Problem Occurs
    8. Started the computer in safe mode. Logged into admin account. Opened the ATI Preference pane.
    When the ATI preference pane was loaded the following error message occured:
    A startup problem has occured.
    Cannot connect to ATI TVOut Kernal Extension. Some features are not available.
    Closed preference pane.
    Went to ATI site and downloaded:
    aug2005-radeo-universal-rom-update.dmg
    Ran the updater.
    Restarted computer.
    Problem Occurs.
    9. Restarted the computer in safe mode. Changed the login preference pannel to automatically log into the administrator account. Restarted computer, waited for the blue screen, then walked away for about 2 hours with the computer on blue screen, hoping the system was loading or doing something.
    Problem Occurs.
    10. Put in the TechTools Pro CD, hoping to run some tests on the video card from the cd. When booting from the CD OS...
    Problem Occurs.
    11. Enabled Root user. Logged in as root and installed ATI Displays 4.5.6 from there. Restarted computer.
    Problem Occurs.
    12. Shut down computer and installed old video card.
    13. On an internal hard drive in the computer. Wiped the drive and formatted it. Installed 10.4.1 on the drive. booted up into the drive, installed ATI drivers, shut down computer, installed 9800 pro video card, booted up.
    Problem Occurs.
    With the new 9800 for Mac ATI card with 256mb:
    With original card, install drivers, repairpermissions, shut down, install new card
    Set to restart in single user, give 5 min to see if ATI monitor startup item in user starteputems loads
    Hooked VGA & DVIt in together, both showed blue screen
    Reset NVRAM via open firmware
    Reset cuda button
    Take battery out, wait at least 10 min, re-install new battery, press cuda button
    Reinstall ATI update 4.5.6
    Reset nvram from open firmware
    In ATI control panel, selected 'Force Single Display Operation'
    Change display scaling to 50%
    Download latest Mac OS update from apple & reinstall
    Help?

    I get dizzy just thinking about it.
    I have tried installed a brand new OS, 3 different times on a different Hard Drive, still the card doesn't work.
    I had one person suggest that it may be the card is not communicating with the OS Window Drawing module? (excuse my ignorance of what that is really called. I just know there is some program, possibly in the kernel, that is responsible for drawing out the OS windows.)
    How can we rule out that it is a bad AGP slot?
    •The slot works fine with my 9000.
    •It works in safe mode with the 9800.
    •I have installed a brand new OS, three different times, still doesn't work.
    •I have used Apple Hardware test to test my hardware, the AGP slot didn't report any problems.
    I am assuming that the AGP slot is working. Although I worry about it a bit, because by now I have swapped cards in it about 50 times in my troubleshooting.
    Here is a link to a complete list of everything I have tried:
    http://www.macosx.com/help/qview.php?questionid=19554#54138

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