Freezing/Hanging - Mobo Issue (P67A-GD65)?
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Chassis - COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC-430-KWN1 Black Steel / Plastic Computer Case
Hard Drive - Western Digital Caviar Blue WD10EALX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
CPU - Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz (3.4GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52400
Mobo - MSI P67A-GD65 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
PSU - RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-630SS 630W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Modular LED Power Supply
RAM - Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model PGD38G1333ELK
GPU - EVGA 02G-P3-1386-KR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
CD Drive - Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
---------------After reading CPU temps--------------
Upgraded CPU Fan - XIGMATEK LOKI SD963 92mm HYPRO Bearing CPU Cooler bracket included I7 i5 775 1155 AMD and dual fan push pull compatible
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Alrighty everyone, so this might end up being a fairly lengthy article, but I want to make sure I give you all of the information so you can correctly assess.
Earlier in the year, I decided that I needed a desktop for college. I had seen people do it before and I was fairly adept at computers, so I put the computer together with the above components from newegg.
Originally, I put the desktop together in about five hours and hooked it up. Worked great, except on startup it gave (and still gives) me an error of saying "No Hard Disk Detected", however the opposite could not be truer as it found my hard drive when I loaded the OS; Windows 7. I then tested it that night with Starcraft II and it worked great; no minor bugs, nothing. The following day, I pull all of my games/programs on it including skype. Here is where things started to get weird. On Borderlands, everything went great and without a hitch, however when I started Civilization V, after playing for about an hour, it froze. And this freeze froze everything; the keyboard, the monitor, the mouse, etc. A buzzing sound came from the speakers and a hard restart was necessary. This freeze also happened again during the Multiplayer for Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2, Starcraft II (after about an hour), League of Legends and even Skype, while using my webcam. Also, in the Windows reliability program and windows events, no freeze is registered.
So I thought "oh, this is obviously overheating or a voltage problem" (the cpu temps were getting between 85-90 C's). So I fixed the RAM's voltage so it fit exactly what it needed (it required 1.65 volts, but the auto detect only gave it 1.5, so it was around .15 off). While waiting for the fan and thermal paste to come, I reinstalled Windows 7, reinstalled the drivers for all of my components and checked event viewer (which I ended up needlessly fixing an event 3011 and 3012 for corrupt performance readers).
My fan and paste came in yesterday and applied both, making my cpu super-cooled leveling off at a max of 50 C's at full load and 25-30 C's idling. The hottest component is now the GPU which usually hits 65-70 C's under full load.
At this point, I figured "great, I have been freeze-free for 2 days, let's retest", so I played two games of league of legends last night (around 1.5 hours) on skype and it froze. Again. Once I restarted my desktop to let everyone know what happened (and loaded skype and rejoined the conversation) I only got in two words before it froze again.
In summary, basically under stress, especially under games/programs requiring the internet, the computer has a full freeze, requiring a hard reset. I tried to fix the voltages (RAM) as well as cool the computer, which seemed to work only for a short while. Further once the computer freezes, whenever I turn it back on, it is more prone to freezing unless I leave it off overnight.
I'm not even necessarily looking for an answer, just an idea of where to start. Thanks again, I would really appreciate some help on this one.
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Update: I used Prime95 to test it as well as Intel Burn Test. No freeze during IBT, and for Prime95 it usually gets hit on the In-Place Large FFT or Blend Test. Hasn't frozen on Small FFT. I also just updated the the mobo's BIOS again to the latest one. Also, with the update, if I put the RAM's voltage at 1.65 (or anything above Auto), it won't boot the OS.
Any ideas welcome.
Quote from: bspeir on 08-August-11, 04:15:04
Right, saw this in my email inbox and thought I would respond, being the OP and all. I asked MSI what the problem was (giving all issues I had) - the response I received was
"We have to suggest you contact your reseller (The place you bought this MB from) and have them test the MB completely for you to check if this MB is faulty or not, then ask for some help.
If the reseller for some reason cannot help, we have to ask you to contact MSI distributor or MSI office near your place to seek further help" about 2-3 weeks ago (took them a month to get back).
The only problem with this, is I am a college student and half about five days left to get back to school and I NEED this desktop for school. So giving back the computer, allowing them to run tests, then waiting to return it seems like an entirely long and not necessary considering the desktop WORKS, but only on 4GB of RAM as opposed to 8GB.
However, I AM willing to check the c-state, but I will need some information first to make sure my desktop won't explode if I do this wrong.
1) What does the C-State do?
2) How do I disable it?
3) Is this really an option I should check into?
Thanks again, this community has honestly been more helpful than MSI's actual customer support.
It won't help you with your problem but I've tested C-state for a while and you can read what it will do in the link HU16E provided. I've noticed that in Idle state the usage of power drops a couple of watts, so when you have your PC in idle a lot of time and you care about power saving it's worth trying. When overclocking it can be unstable however. I have a CPU that handles all cores set to 46 with all energy settings on and auto Vcore completely stable, when going to 47 I have to compensate. The first thing I have to do is disable C-State because it will BSOD when in idle for a while. So I will suggest that if you use stock settings and care about power saving you try it and otherwise disable it.
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Thanks!Quote from: NovJoe on 23-May-11, 10:16:19
Looks to me that it is the LSI firmware issue as the card works fine until you updated its firmware.
Do card with the card's vendor.
Hi NovJoe,
Thats just it. It looks like its an MSI BIOS compatability issue all along. Before I upgrade the firmware, the card works in my Dell Precision Workstation, but does not work on the MSI mobo; shows Device could not start (Code 10) error. After I upgrade the Firmware, the MSI mobo will not POST, but the Dell still boots up with the card perfectly.
Its definitely NOT the card. If both the 9240 and 9260 cards work perfectly in other computers then there is something wrong with the MSI mobo or BIOS.
Please help.
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Unfortunately i don't have another Computer to test with, i've got to use a friend's laptop to post here.
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When in the OS, uncheck Automatically Restart in the Settings of Startup & Recovery. Then the BSOD will remain visible long enough to get the Stop: error code.
Well i can't reach the OS. If i'm ever able to reach it though i will do it. Is this something that i show Always do, unchecking the Automatic Restart and never checking it again ?
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Clear CMOS and test with just 1 piece of RAM. Run it for a week to see if there is any issues.
Will try this.
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In that message box, there is a button that allows you to expand the dialog to see the detail. That contains the BSOD code.
Yeah i already knew about this, problem is whenever i would expand the window it seemed to me that the Computer would restart faster, not giving me enough time to save that code.
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I've never seen a "Forum" that wants new topics for the exact same problems (spreading potential fixes for the same issue all over the place instead of in one thread), but apparently if I post to another topic from someone with identical problems (the one right below this one with the same issue) I'm called a thread hijacker.
Seems like a ton of people are having these issues with lockups with the P67A-GD65
My setup - all new components
P67A-GD65
I7 2600k SandyBridge 3.4Ghz
G.SKILL F3-14900CL9D-8GBXL (2 x 4GB sticks in slot 1 and 3)
Nvidia GeForce GTX 460
two WD Black sata III 1TB drives in a RAID0 in sata ports 1 and 2 (SATA 6Gb)
two WD Green sata II 1TB drives in a RAID0 in sata ports 3 and 4 (SATA 3Gb)
one WD Black sata III 1TB drive in sata port 5 (system resides on this non raid drive)
Bluray drives in sata ports 6 and 7
Corsair 750W 80 PLUS Power supply
Then go to another machine and RDP to it, no problems. Wait about an hour, RDP and you get "Welcome" and it just hangs.
So if I go to the console, it tells me someone else is trying to login, but no drive activity at all, and won't let me do anything and I have to hard power off.
If I'm at the machine, just doing different "normal" things, browser windows lockup, applications lockup, all requiring a hard shutdown by the button since I can't select the option to reboot normally. No BSOD's, no OC, the OC Genie is OFF
My memory is even certified for this damn board on bios 1.B which I have updated to. But in "auto" doesn't even get the memory timings correct.
http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=378
I'm Going nutz trying to figure out what the f--k is going on. I even ran the on board memory test and it passed.
I'm thinking that quality control on this production line is crap. I've seen a ton of complaints of BSOD's, rebot loops, and random lockups which can be reproduced easily.
MSI? Are you going to fix this!!!
How about posting the serial numbers of the bad run from manufacturing so users can see if they have a bad board? I've been building systems for 15 years and I've never had so much trouble with a board.
Has anyone had a success story that wasn't from an RMA? I haven't found a post where a user had these issues and made a few bios changes and they came back with "great, that fixed it".
Thanks
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I've never seen a "Forum" that wants new topics for the exact same problems (spreading potential fixes for the same issue all over the place instead of in one thread), but apparently if I post to another topic from someone with identical problems (the one right below this one with the same issue) I'm called a thread hijacker.
Now you have seen it. Get over it and also please skip this kind of stuff:
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this damn board
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what the f--k
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this production line is crap
... because if you can't, I will close this thread immediately and delete the entire thing a.s.a.p. This latent aggressive attitude is not going to shed one bit of useful light on the problem. >>Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.<<
Also:
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I've been building systems for 15 years and I've never had so much trouble with a board.
I've heard that kind of thing a million times. Be that as it may, it does not really tell us anything about the actual cause of the problem. Furthermore, if you are so sure it is the board, why didn't you simply send it back/RMA it/have it exchanged after you have ruled all other explanations out systematically?
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Seems like a ton of people are having these issues with lockups with the P67A-GD65
There are thousands of freeze issues on all different hardware configurations. However, more important than the symptoms are the precise hardware configuration the freezes occur in and the actual causes for the common symptom. Once the causes are truly found out it makes sense to compare similar issues. It should not be done, however, because of a common symptom. And that is exactly why your problem (and any other problem that is just a symptom at first) deserves its own, seperate thread.
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P67A-GD65
I7 2600k SandyBridge 3.4Ghz
G.SKILL F3-14900CL9D-8GBXL (2 x 4GB sticks in slot 1 and 3)
Nvidia GeForce GTX 460
two WD Black sata III 1TB drives in a RAID0 in sata ports 1 and 2 (SATA 6Gb)
two WD Green sata II 1TB drives in a RAID0 in sata ports 3 and 4 (SATA 3Gb)
one WD Black sata III 1TB drive in sata port 5 (system resides on this non raid drive)
Bluray drives in sata ports 6 and 7
Corsair 750W 80 PLUS Power supply
Please reduce the complexity of your system to the most basic configuration needed to run your operating system. Use one stick of RAM only, make sure it is set to run at a frequency that does not exceed the specifications of the processor's memory controller (DDR3-1333 max.!). Unplug all the hard drives, optical drives, SSDs, card readers, add-on cards, USB devices etc. that are not needed to work with the operating system (you need just mouse, keyboard, video card, processor, one stick of RAM).
Once you have reduced the system complexity and please unplug your PSU from A/C power, >>Clear CMOS<< and then load "Optimized Defaults" in UEFI Setup. Then apply your custom settings (e.g. RAID Mode settings & Memory Speed = DDR3-1333).
Then retest.
In case the freezes still occur, then please disable all CPU related power saving settings in UEFI Setup (C1E, C-States, EIST) and retest. Also, try if setting the phase control mode from "APS" to "Intel SVID" mode. -
MSI P67A GD65 System Freezes while Gaming
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i m facing system hangs/freezes while gaming. it is all along working fine but suddenly problem arrises outta nowhere. mostly happens in Metro Last Light Game. i did change multiple things like 2 different rams stick, Bios are 4.1v (at default), i tried 2 different GPUs like 290 and 580 but stilll facing same issue. dont know why.
if you can help on it this, it would be alot appreciated.
m PC
MSI p67a GD65
I5 2500K
8GB RAM
800w PSUWhat is the actual power supply?
Follow this >>Posting Guide<<
Make sure you run latest BIOS.
PS: Intel ME driver is crucial, without it system won't work properly, and that's why it didn't freeze anymore. Same applies to GPUs: if you have 400W power supply and want to run 2-way SLI, it will be fine until you install drivers, which make the computer and graphic cards recognise how much power they have and so on -
P67a-GD65 System Freezes and Recovers During 3D gaming and Online Video
The Problem:
Temporary system freeze with audio stutter. The system recovers 30sec - 2min later.
Key presses made during freeze will execute after system recovers (ctrl+alt+delete for example)
Usually, but not always, I see an error message in the system tray and I do NOT experience bsod.
This happens seemingly at random from 3D accelerated applications, and web browsing. Games such as BF3 (moderate), WoW (seldom), Planetside 2 (frequently), Minecraft (seldom), Hawken (seldom), etc.
Also happens frequently in both Internet Explorer 9/10, Firefox, Chrome, and Steam store browser. Typically when watching steaming video (youtube, HULU, flow player, etc)
but Pandora audio streaming also seems to create the conditions where this happens.
Error Message:
"Display driver stopped responding and has recovered
Display driver NVIDIA Windows Kernal Mode Driver 314.07 stopped
responding and has successfully recovered"
The problem also shows up in the Windows reliability history with the following data:
Source
Windows
Summary
Video hardware error
Date
3/6/2013 9:11 PM
Status
Not reported
Description
A problem with your video hardware caused Windows to stop working correctly.
Problem signature
Problem Event Name: LiveKernelEvent
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
Locale ID: 1033
Files that help describe the problem
WD-20130306-2010.dmp
sysdata.xml
WERInternalMetadata.xml
Extra information about the problem
BCCode: 117
BCP1: FFFFFA8011E0C4E0
BCP2: FFFFF8800654A198
BCP3: 0000000000000000
BCP4: 0000000000000000
OS Version: 6_1_7601
Service Pack: 1_0
Product: 768_1
My System Hardware:
CPU: Intel i7 2600k @ 4.5ghz
Motherboard: MSI p67a-gd65 (B3 stepping)
Memory: G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
GPU: Originally MSI 6950 2GB. Replaced with EVGA 670 FTW 2GB.
PSU: CORSAIR HX Series HX850 850W
HDD: 3x Western Digital WD RE4 WD5003ABYX 500GB in Raid 0
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 with all updates
Case/Cooling: Silverstone Raven 2E with Thermalright silver arrow cpu heatsink
What I've tried:
Updated all motherboard drivers and bios (4.3) to current versions (no improvement)
Updated display drivers (in safe mode with driver sweeper. No improvement)
Updated Realtek Audio drivers for onboard sound (no improvement)
Updated Intel Rapid Storage drivers (no improvment)
Cleared CMOS and tested system at default settings with no overlock (no improvement)
Flashed 6950 back to 6950 stock bios and removed overclock (no improvement)
Replaced old 6950 with new GTX 670 (problem still occurs in the same exact way)
Tried GPU in 2nd PCIe slot. No improvement.
Checked GPU Temps. GTX 670 fan profile in EVGA Precision X set to keep temp below 70 degrees Celcius. Card maxes at 60 degrees under heavy gaming load.
Complete reformat of raid array with fresh install of Windows (4 different times) Seemed to help for a few days, then freezes came back
Ran OCCT and Prime 95 Torture tests separately for a few hours at stock and OC settings. System stable with core temps of high 50's overclocked, and low 40's stock.
Ran Memtest86 for 10 hours with zero errors.
Used digital multimeter to test 12v rail on PSU. Noted solid 12v reported. Didn't test other rails.
Unplugged PSU cables from motherboard and reattached firmly
Ran HD Tune and Data Life Guard Tools for error checking on hard disks. Zero errors found.
Disabled Windows Aero (no improvement)
Updated Adobe Flash Player to latest setting (no improvement)
Removed Adobe Flash Player (no improvement)
Turned off Adobe Flash hardware acceleration (no improvement)
*EDIT: Forgot that I also adjusted Nvidia driver profiles for apps that have frozen to include power preference to max performance
All of my hardware with the exception of the new 670 was purchased and configured back in February of 2011. This problem first occured in BF3 multiplayer sometime in early 2012,
and has gradually been happening more frequently. Web searches found many individuals with this error, but the solutions are all over the map, and I've tried just about everything that I've found.
I think I've narrowed the problem down to the motherboard, but I just can't find a clear answer or solution. Maybe it's the raid array? I really thought replacing the GPU would solve my trouble here
and I was...NOT happy when it happened again with the new 670 that I scored for $250 after amazon gift cards. I typically get kicked/disconnected during online game play when this happens and I'm ready to be done with it. I was hoping to fix the issue without needing to buy new hardware, but I don't see any other way at this point.
My patience runs thin. Please help!Quote from: Froggy Gremlin on 11-March-13, 15:28:36
Might want to ask for the special archive to return the mainboard to pre-Ivy support UEFI/BIOS and then test again with everything set to auto/stock/default.
Already tested that before updating to 4.3. I started having the problem on 1.8, then 1.J0, then 4.3.
Quote from: Bernhard on 11-March-13, 15:30:29
Just a shot in the dark.
The length of time that your CPU has been running at the OC could have accelerated the eventual degradation.
Have you tested your CPU in another board or do you have access to a "known good" CPU to test in your system ?
I do not have another 1155 lga board to test the cpu in unfortunately, hence the CPU stress testing. Based upon previous experiences with multiple overclocked systems that I've run at much more aggressive overclocks, I don't believe I'm seeing a processor failure, though I can't rule out the possibility.
Quote from: xmad on 11-March-13, 23:26:01
Quite a few components can cause this.
Do you have a friend that could lend you a psu to test? A weak of failing PSU can often be the cause of something like this?
No I don't have another PSU to test. I did use a digital multimeter to test the 12v rail, as well as the motherboard contacts for testing voltage to the cpu and system They were all right in line with what I'm seeing reported in the bios. I did not test these contacts while the system was under load however, so I may need to do it again. -
Hi everyone
I have some isses with my new p67a-gd65:
Q1. When booting before showing the intel raid utility I hear 1long and 3or4 short beeps. Accorind to google those 3 short beeps should mean that there's a problem with the upper memory. I have F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR2 (2x4GB) and the memory is supported by this mobo according to the gskills website. Furthermore I ran the memtest86+ (v4.20) a week ago and this morning (for about 90mins) and no errors turned out. The system/memory hasn't been overclocked and I'm using the 1f8 bios.
If the beeps are 4short this should mean that the system timer is dead. I cannot see any issues when running win7 or fedora linux. Everything looks ok. Should I be concerned???
I noticed the beeps this morning because it turned out I've used the wrong pins for the beeper (JFP2) for the mobo. That's why I haven't heard them before (if there were any).
Should I be concered for those beeps?
Q2. In the "green" section there are 2 options to choose from: APS and Intel SVID XXXX. When I choose APS all 6 phase leds are on all the time. As I said before the system hasn't been overclocked (i5-2500k). Even in idle (after 15 min) I still have a solid light from all 6 leds.
If I choose Intel SVID instead of APS after the system fully boots it shows 1 led with steady light, the following 4 are lit but not as intensive as the first one, and the last led is blinking. So I still have all of them on. I have enabled the c1e state and the other c states and chosen "no limit" for the c-states.
once again: Should I be concerned about this? Why don't those led turn off et least in idle???
Q3: I'm using an raid0 for my data and therefore have enabled the intel-raid. As a result when booting I have to wait about 7 sec starring in front of the "intel raid-rom bla-a-a-a". Do you know how I can hide the this intel-blaaaaa and speed up the boot process?
otherwise the system looks rock solid but those isses drive me crazy!
--peterPlease post the full system specs.
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Hello,
I am having issues with my new system that i have built.
MSI P67a-gd65 (B3)
Corsair XMS3 1600
MSI Twin frozr GTX560 TI
Core i7 2600K
Windows 7 64 bit
My system will randomly lockup and i can't get it to work again unless i hard reset the machine. I have set the motherboard to optimized defaults and the memory is running at 1333. I also made sure my RAM timings and voltages were set to their defaults. I have not overclocked the system in any way. These lockups only occur when i am doing leisure things like surfing the web or checking my email. I can play any game i want for several hours on end without a lockup. I have updated my drivers from the MSI website and this also did not help.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
AnthonyQuote from: Ethylo on 30-March-11, 05:28:23
I had exact same issue with very close hardware ( only dif is 2500K instead of your 2600K, and B2 motherboard ) and after many test I finally found the solution by changing SPD memory from JEDEC4 to XMP-1600.
JEDEC4 was completely unstable , I got no BSOD but random freeze, especially when idling/low activity.
IMHO Corsair memories are definately not stable with JEDEC4.
Now 10 days with XMP SPD and fully stable !
Hello all,
I've been 24 hour crash free. I also setup my memory as listed above (thanks for that tip).
Thanks to everyone who replied with ideas. -
P67A-GD65(B3) and drive upgrade (3TB, GPT) issues
Hi,
I was happy P67A-GD65 owner.. until now. I've bought 3TB single drive to replace old 2x1TB drives working as RAID-0.
PC had no problems at all with detection new drive, I've connected it with SATA2 port&cable due to such case construction. I've partitioned it with GPT style = all fine.
Troubles started once I wanted to clone RAID-0 partitions to new drive. MBR->GPT partitions are not an issue, but I've got 8 operating systems there (3xWindowses, 5xLinuxes), so I had to use two-stage bootmenu: first stage MBR-based (GRUB) with direct Linux starters + entrance to Windows menu, and second stage EBR-based (Win Vista/7-style) with Windowses only. Strictly I have no idea which program is able (if any, as I doubt) to make simply copy of all structure to new drive, because of MBR... I decided new drive will be GPT-like, so no more WIndows XP and MBR -> if so, so MBR-based boot-menu goes to h*ll -> if so, so first stage menu is gone, half of my operating systems is unstartable.
So I decided to go with "manual way" and install all OSes by hand. Yes, it's a pain. One week probably out of my life calendar.
So I disabled SSD and RAID, sticking with new drive only. Windows 7 has been installed. OK then - I think - time to enable RAID-0 and copy data. ZONK... I simply can't boot "new" drive (UEFI-based) with RAID enabled.
You must know I've done Win7 install with no RAID enabled, as well as BIOS option regarding to SATA mode was set to AHCI (whether my previous setup required setting this to RAID).
SO my question: is it possible to boot PC from UEFI-based drive (GPT-style partitions) and have RAID-0 (MBR-style) attached somehow ? Drive requires AHCI mode and hangs up with RAID mode (bluescreen). I underline - it works the opposite way: I can boot from MBR-ed RAID and attach GPT single drive (BIOS SATA settings: RAID). Have I to reinstall Win7 with RAID turned on ??
Cheers,
MartinNo, it's not GPT partitioning. I've done this properly now, Windows didn't shout during install...
So - summing up:
All connected (SSD & 2xHDDs in RAID-0 & new 3TB HDD) - to Intel SATA ports:
port 0: 3TB Toshiba
port 1: SSD
port 4: RAID-0 vol1
port 5: RAID-0 vol2
.. in BIOS there's SATA mode set to: RAID mode. Clicking F11 - bootmenu - during startup:
* Windows boot manager (UEFI) boot - shows screen with corrupted uefi/someething file, repair or reboot
* Intel RAID-0 boot - loads Win7 from SSD, new drive is shown with no problem
Single drive boot (SSD & RAID-0 unplugged):
* Windows boot manager (UEFI) boot - loads Win7 from new 3TB drive
So I can't work with newly instaled WIndows (and copy a whole content of "old" HDDs having booted from new drive), I have to boot "old" MBR-based RAID-0 system and copy files instead. It's a bit odd as if I wanted to connect RAID-0 (or another bootable drive) in the future = boot might be impossible ?
I'm just afraid how Linuxes will go... brrr. -
Well I've tried every suggestion and supposed fix (ram timings, etc.) for the feezing up problem to no avail. I still get a total system freeze at least once a day which then requires a manual restart of the PC. Kind of sucks.
Even with everything set to stock unmolested config with no overclocking it still occurs.
Any other ideas?How is this a thread hijack? Did you have a bad day or something? All I did was comment that I was in the same boat and it seems like there's a LOT of people having this issue.
The topic is "Re: P67A-GD65 still freezing up"
And the original poster said
"Well I've tried every suggestion and supposed fix (ram timings, etc.) for the feezing up problem to no avail. I still get a total system freeze at least once a day which then requires a manual restart of the PC. Kind of sucks.
Even with everything set to stock unmolested config with no overclocking it still occurs.
Any other ideas?"
I've done the exact same, and have the exact same issue. And YES, the bios is updated to 1.B...that's what the memory is qualified with.
I can see if someone was to jump in and say "hey, and my hard drive isn't connecting" or "My rig is constantly rebooting" which is completely off topic. That's a thread hijack.
Never seen a forum that asks people to post identical topics. From what I've read in other related posts it doesn't seem to be a problem with the RAM, and there's a ton of people who are posting on newegg who have similar problems with all different makes of RAM and they get the same "please email me at xxxx@msi to help with your issue." "and include your serial number".
That tells me that MSI has a crap manufacturing run out there but is too lame to admit it so people can check if they have a defective board themselves and get it replaced quickly. Instead customers have to waste their time spending hours or days trying to fix something that is likely a flaw in the hardware that MSI won'd admit to in the open. Been there, done that. I work for a hardware manufacturer and our lame PM's and executives do the same crap when there's a screw up on a large scale. But it doesn't mean it's right.
Quality RAM (especially RAM that's verified) should run with the auto settings. And since the same memory works fine in an ASUS board where I could actually run a memtest on it successfully, tells me that MSI's sweeping things under the rug given the amount of problems customers are experiencing which are either continual reboots or lockups with no errors in the Windows logs.
As for this "user forum", it's not a user forum, this is a helpdesk. What moderator decided that the format is "one user posts and others only post to help that one user"? Or is this the only support MSI offers it's customers?
Thanks for the great help though!
Scott -
P67A-GD65 (B3 ) & Windows 7 64Bit Boot Issue
Hi,
I feel the need to revisit this old forum post as I do not believe it has been fully resolved:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=156082.0
In summary the issue is "Most times the machine boots and performs flawlessly for hours, but often it boots with the Windows-7 “need to repair” screen and after running repair for a while Windows says: “Windows cannot repair the problem”…….but when I press the Reset button, the PC boots and runs just fine".
I only had the problem since updating from 1F beta 2 to the latest BIOS version. On the original forum thread there are some that had the view that the issue was introduced around BIOS version 1.F (full release, non-beta) and 1.G. Just to confirm this issue NEVER happened for me on 1F beta 2 or earlier BIOS releases. The original forum also has some people saying the issue did not exist on earlier BIOS versions as well.
Most people seem to have solved the issue by either resetting the CMOS or loading default BIOS settings. I tried this and it did initially solve the problem for me.
BUT when I installed new drivers (such as nvidia v301.24) or added new hardware (e.g. Bigfoot PCIe network gaming card) the problem came back.
This implies to me that there is an issue with the BIOS and that resetting the CMOS is a workaround rather than a true fix.
This leaves me with two choices:
- use an older BIOS, which is ok but limits me from the new functionality in the BIOS (including not being able to use certain hardware that the BIOS updates support)
- resetting the CMOS after loading new drivers or installing new hardware and then configure my settings (which is very tedious)
Neither option is ideal to me.
The main purpose of raising this issue is to ask whether MSI Support know of this issue and have it on their bug list to fix?
I am concerned it is not being addressed as other forum entries talk about BIOS version 1.K3 being the last version.
My system details are P67-GD65(B3), Windows 7 64bit, 16GB Gskill 2133Mhz memory, 2 SSD, 2HDD, Nvidia 570 GTX, Bigfoot network gaming card.Quote from: momosala on 25-September-12, 22:19:54
Thank you _MELK_ for bringing us your experience.
It was already reported that this bug did not appear with older firmware versions.
It is interesting to know that version 1.14 does not have this bug.
This information should help the MSI support team to create a 1.K reliable firmware.
In my opinion, I do not think that Intel RST is the cause of this bug.
Sure thing momosala..
An update to this issue is as follow...
BIOS 1.14 fixed this issue completely. NO errors since I flashed back to it. I also reinstalled Intel RST without any issue either.
Note that I wanted 1.19 for another reason as well (fix for USB 3.0 port issues). I wound up flashing the chipset for the USB ports themselves instead . Now the MB works as intended! :D
WARNING: use the info below with CAUTION (not simple to do, and not provided/supported by MSI afaik)
INFO on USB 3.0 firmware/drivers -- again, use CAUTION and do your research before proceeding!
Note that it took me a few hours to complete the flash since I had to research which version of the chipset I had (hardware ID helped, LOTS of reading on the subject as well to find out HOW to flash my board properly).
You can find the drivers/firmware for the "Renesa USB 3.0 Host controller" by searching google for
Driver: Renesas/Nec Usb 3.0 Version 3.0.23.0/2.1.39.0 WHQL.
I used the 2.1.39.0 drivers -- you'll find the firmware at the same place and an explanation on how to flash the chipset we have on the P67A-GD65 (which has TWO identical chips to flash). The new firmware updater doesn't work on those, so you need to download an older firmware to use the older DOS program to flash with the newer .MEM files. -
P67A-GD65 (B2) - Asus R9290 DirectCU II Post Issue
Hi All,
Having an issue with the above card posting which I understand is an issue with the below BIOS version.
BIOS v1.19 / 1.J0
Intel ME 7.1.52.1176
I have tried to flash the BIOS with the forum tool and custom BIOS E7681IMS to allow the ME8 update which I have read on the forum will allow compatibilty with the card. However I am seeing the following message when the tool runs ''The Host CPU does not have write access to the target flash area you must modify the descriptor setting to give host access to this region''
Is there an option I need to check in the BIOS before updating - not seeing anything relating to this in the options.
Appreciate any assistance here.
Thanks
IzzzitIf your P67A-GD65 is really a (B2) you can't flash it with an ME8 bios required to run latest AMD R9 or GeForce GTX7xx and above. Only (B3) can be updated to ME8. The B2 should have been returned long ago when there was an issue with that revision of the Intel chipset that has been cured with the B3 revision.
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