Freight conditions determination

Hi Experts,
How are freight conditions determined? and they are determined at shipment level or shipment cost document level?in which document these conditions are captured at shipment out put or shipment cost document output? Throw some light on this issue.
Thanks,
KP.

HI
Fright cost are determined in shipments cost document when you create the same in VI01
regards
Prashanth

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Freight condition on pallet level

Hi Guys
Iu2019m stuck with a problem for a condition for freight. Sorry if it's answered somewhere else in the forum, but I haven't found it yet.
Currently there is a freight condition working for this which basically is using KG and there is a scale, which identifies the freight cost.
The freight condition in KG is created as an item condition and as a group condition, i.e. when more than one material in the order then the freight cost is distributed to every material line.
This works excellent, but does of course face some problems in the scale values.
We now want to create a new freight condition, which basically is basing the freight determination upon the number of pallets.
I have then created a new condition, which is created as an item condition and as a group condition and the relevant master data.
I have a scale which says:
0-1 pallet 50u20AC/pallet
1-2 pallet 49u20AC/pallet
2-3 pallet 48u20AC/pallet
etc.
If a material for instance is 100 cartons per pallet then the condition determination for an order will be:
Order 1:
Pos.nr 10 100 cartons = 1 pallet = freight 50u20AC
Order 2:
Pos.nr 10 50 cartons = ½ pallet
Pos.nr 20 50 cartons = ½ pallet
Result = freight 50u20AC
Order 3:
Pos.nr 10 50 cartons = ½ pallet
Pos.nr 20 50 cartons = ½ pallet
Pos.nr 30 1 carton = 1/100 of a pallet
Result = freight = 49u20AC + 1/100th of 49u20AC = 49,49u20AC
Order 4:
Pos.nr 10 50 cartons = ½ pallet
Result = freight = 25u20AC
Order 1 + 2 would be OK u2013 but only because it matches a full pallet
Order 3 + 4 would not be OK. For order 3 the result should be 2x49u20AC and for order 4 the cost should be 50u20AC
I have been trying to use the Alternative formula for condition base value (to round up the number of pallets to a whole number), but as this is only calculated on position level I canu2019t see what to do. Additionally I think I have also tried every combination in the book for the customizing of the condition, butu2026u2026.
Can anyone please give me a hint as this would be highly valuated??
rgds
Steff

Hi Raghu
I have also had my ABAP'er experimenting a bit with AltCTyp to determine the number of pallets, but unfortunately not something succesfully yet.
The problem with the AltCTyp was that I could easily have an alternative calculation, which would use this to determine the number of pallets and thereby the scale, but it wouldn't give me the correct value back.
If I can use the example of a full pallet in line 10 and a sample carton in line 20, then the total number of pallets is 1 pallet and one carton, i.e. it will be sent on two pallets.
When using AltCTyp I got two options:
[1]: line 10 (the price of one pallet) + line 20 (the price of one pallet / no of cartons in pallet * 1
[2]: line 10 (the price of one pallet) + line 20 (the price of one pallet)
When using AltCTyp it's my understanding that it's calculating per item line - handling all lines and group values - and distributing the values to each line.
I miss the option of SAP providing me the sum of all lines. This sum should then look in the scales where it identifies that it's above 1 pallet but below two, identify that it should be 2 pallets. Then it should take this freight cost of two pallets and distribute the amount to the lines according to the quantity, so the result of sending an extra pallet for this one line 20 would have an impact on both lines.
Basically I had thought that the scale formula could provide this for me, but..............
I will have my ABAP'er have a look at your suggestion for the user exit
rgds
Steff

Issue with Freight condition with scales

HI Experts
We have requirement like below.
When customer send an order
o     if the order contains materials for a minimum quantity the system should not apply freight condition
o     if the order contains materials for less than minimum quantity the system should apply freight condition
For example: sales condition freight has scale
     scale qty     unit     amount     unit
From     0     PC     18,3     u20AC
     4     PC     0     u20AC
e.g.1  customer send order that contain 9 PC, so system NOT apply freight condition
material     quantity
x1     1
x2     1
x3     2
x4     5
e.g.2  customer send order that contain 2 PC, so system apply freight condition
material     quantity
x1     1
x2     1
For this we have maintained Group condition and maintained scales up to 3 Order quantity 18 EUR . If order quantity is greater than 4 condition should not apply.
But Now our issue is when ever Material determination is occurring in Order our condition is going to fail. For example order quantity is 2 with TAPA item(parent item) and so substitute Item also 2 quantity (Tan item). In this case system is reading order quantity as 4 and our condition is 0. But actual quantity is 2 condition should apply in Order.
Could you please suggest us where we can control this kind of scenario.
Regards, Lakshmikanth

Done through user exit

Freight conditions in sales doc

Hi Friends,
I got a requirement of adding freight charges depending on the weight of goods and distance. Like, say, add a freight condition of Rs10/- per kg per kilometer.
This should be dependent on delivering plant and ship to party distance.how this to be handled, can someone throw some light??
Thanks in advance
Ajit Patro

you can define new condition type, determine it based on route in SD doc, then in condition value folrmula you can calculate your value based on initial condition rate (route based = distance based) and weight/qty of your material.
Hope this helps.

Freight Conditions and Commission Rate - New Requirement

Hi All,
There is new requirement about Freight condition and Commission Rate. Please see below for details:
I got the requirement lets say:
They want 3 different types of freight like 1st Freight - based on unit/qty, 2nd freight - Fixed Amount, and 3rd Freight - based on kilometer, out of this 3 any one will applicable in sale order at a time depends how they want to charge. they have existing pricing procedure.
I hope the above freight related part clear to you all.
Now the commision part:
Here they are giving commisions whatever rate decided to the commission agent, here also for commission agent they want 3 different types 1st will be Fixed Amount, 2nd will be based on percentage and 3rd will be normal way.
Please help and advice how to achieve this type of requirement.

hi
Condition Exclusion
The system can exclude conditions so that they are not taken into account during pricing in sales documents.
Material 4711 costs 150 USD. Some customers receive a discount of 10 USD per 100 pieces.
However, a specific customer can buy the material for 100 USD. Since this is a particularly good price, the customer should not also have a discount of 10 USD per 100 pieces. Therefore, this discount is to be excluded from pricing.
To do this, you must follow two steps:
You must set a condition exclusion indicator for the price. You can do this in two ways: If you want to set the condition exclusion indicator a follows then you specify it:
- for all condition records of a condition type (e.g. with condition type PR00) when defining a condition type in SD Customizing
- for an individual condition record (e.g. only for material 4711) in the detail screen of a condition record (in the Condition exclusion field)
You must set a condition for the discount in the pricing procedure in Customizing for sales. If this condition is set, the discount is not valid if the condition exclusion indicator is set. Condition 2 is available in the standard R/3 System.
The condition exclusion indicator is not valid for condition supplements.
This means that if a condition record contains condition supplements they will be taken into account during pricing.
Condition Exclusion Group u2013
In any normal situation there could be more than one condition type in a pricing procedure offering a discount to a customer. Should the discounts be automatically determined, there is the risk that the customer will receive all the relevant discounts and thus purchase the product for a lower price than he should.
By using u2018condition exclusion groupsu2019 you can ensure that the customer does not receive all the discounts, but instead only receives the best of the available discount condition types.
Menu path u2013 IMG - Sales & Distribution - Basic functions u2013 pricing u2013 condition exclusion u2013 condition exclusion for groups of conditions (OV31).
A condition exclusion group is merely a grouping of condition types that are compared to each other during pricing and result in the exclusion of particular condition types within a group or entire groups. It is important to note that the condition types you want the system to compare must exist in the pricing procedure and must have valid condition records created for them.
If for example, a sales order is created using the pricing procedure that the exclusion group is assigned to, you can see that the condition offering the most favorable discount to the customer is represented in the pricing procedure.
For instance, condition type K007 has offered a discount of 10% off the sale price or a real value of $30, while another condition type K005 has offered a real value discount of $10. The system then takes the best discount for the customer between the two, which is K007 and makes the other discount K005 inactive. This can be seen by double clicking on the condition type K005, where you can find a entry saying u2018Inactive A condition exclusion itemu2019.
There are four possible methods of using condition exclusion groups u2013
A u2013 best condition between the condition types
B u2013 best condition within the condition types
C u2013 best condition between the two exclusion groups
D u2013 exclusive
E u2013 least favorable within the condition type
F u2013 least favorable within the two exclusion groups
Configuring u2018Condition Exclusion Groupsu2019
First step is to define a u2018condition exclusion groupu2019 by using a four character alpha numeric key.
Next step is to assign the relevant condition types to the exclusion groups such as discount condition types, freight condition types.
After completing the assignment of the condition types to the exclusion group, proceed with assigning the condition exclusion group to the relevant pricing procedure.
After selecting the pricing procedure for which you want the condition exclusion to be active, select the folder u2018Exclusionu2019 where you can assign the relevant condition exclusion procedure to the relevant condition exclusion group.
When using the condition exclusion group to find the best condition record in a condition type u2013 only use one condition type per exclusion group. The most important thing to remember here is to u201Cdeactivateu201D the Exclusive Indicator on the access sequence assigned to that condition type. Otherwise, the system will merely find the first condition record and stop searching for other records.

Shipping condition determination (OVL2) not open and system close

Dear Guys,
as per attached, i used ECC 6 VM and when use t.code OVL2 to open Shipping condition determination system appear this error and terminated.
IS there another choice to link Ship condition+Plan+LoadingGroup.

Hi Nagi,
Is a plant determined in the document in ERP after downloading from CRM? If not then this is probably the reason so you will need to map a vendor partner in CRM to a plant in ERP at item level so that the determination of the shipping point takes place.
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No Conditions Determined (NoAuthorization for Input)

Hi, I'm new in SAP, can anybody please help me with this error messages happened in MIGO transaction?
"No Conditions Determined (No Authorization for Input) - Message No.: 06235
Diagnosis:
Your user master record does not include authorization to perform this function or display certain data.
Procedure:
Contact your system administrator.
Your function authorization does not cover the entry of conditions.
Function authorizations may be maintained or displayed by authorized persons in Customizing."
The user is doing MIGO with Article that has a Material Type: Packaging. The document won't post due to said error messages.
I've already checked the user authorization, everything is ok.
Please advise.
Thanks.

Hi,
You can check with your system administrator (basis admin) to check whether correct profile has been authorized for your user name.
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Freight condition value modify after reverse GR

Hi
I have done PO with freight condition FR1 and done GR again i reverse GR now i want to change my PO freight value but system is not allowed, in Config i have removed Dlivery cost B in Condition type now it will work but i want to know this is correct way or not or any other option.
What is use of Delivery cost B in PO,GR or MIRO, please explain this
Please suggest solution
Thanks
Shital D

Hi,
I have created two POs with & with out the config option : Delivery Costs - B. But in both the cases, the system does not allow the change in the freight percentage FRA1. For standard conditions like FRA1, the control will be entirely throgh the backend program. If you need to work with configuration/control data of the condition type, please create Z-condition by copying the std condition and try to change the control data.
thanks & regards
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Freight condition modify after reverse GR

Hi,
I have done PO with freight condition FR1 and done GR again i reverse GR now i want to change my PO freight value but system is not allowed, in Config i have removed Dlivery cost B in Condition type now it will work but i want to know this is correct way or not or any other option.
What is use of Delivery cost B in PO,GR or MIRO, please explain this
Please suggest solution
Thank

hi
it is not possible to change value once GR is done
go for addition of new item (copy of original )
or take the freight in unplanned del cost

Updating Vendor of Freight Condition Type in STO

Hi,
I am facing a problem in updating KOMP-LIFNR in my program. I have below scenario
I have created a Z program which gets all materials from mchb and creates a STO order thru a BAPI_PO_CREATE1. Anyway STO is getting created but i am facing a program to update a freight condition type. I need to LIFNR(Vendor) in freight condition type.
Pls help is how to update is there any bapi to update.
Regards,
Sreekanth

Hi
We dont have any fields in the BAPI_PO_CREATE1 to directly input the Freight vendor , But by maintaining the freight vendor in the purchase infor record will update the Conditons in the PO at the time of creation of the PO.
You can also acheuive this by using the user exit enhancement SAPL2012
Exit : EXIT_SAPL2012_001.Customer Exit for Creating a Purchase Order in Enjoy Using BAPI_PO_CREATÊ1
You can chek out using SMOD.Please take the help of ABPERs to develop the code as per the requirement.
Award points if useful
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Kishore.

Issue in maintaining the freight condition in SRM pricing conditions

Hi All,
We have maintained the freight condition in SRM pricing conditions But when a buyer try to add the freight condition it does not give any field to add the value.We want the freight condition at the header level.
Let me know if there is any service needs to be activated or we have to activate any business function to enable this.
Please find the attached document to check the settings and actual issue while entering the freight condition.
This is urgent and please provide your suggestion to avoid this issue.
Thanks,
Ankur

Hi Anil,
Its not a standard functionality to get the Header level price condition in SRM PO . I got to know that we need to implement note 1898304 for SRM 7.13 SP01 and activate a Business function.Can anyone let me know how it used to handle in previous versions.
Thanks,
Ankur

Freight Conditions not populating on free of charge sales order deliveries

I need some assistance, please. I have searched SCN, but have not been able to find a solution to my problem.
We need to be able to charge freight charges on Free of Charge sales orders and am not able to get the charges to populate in the delivery. We send the product for free, but sometimes need to charge the customer shipping charges.
Below are steps I have completed:
Created custom header condition of ZFRC
Added to sales order pricing procedure as a manual condition
(the charge will be updated from external system)
Created Delivery Pricing procedure containing only my
freight conditions (also manual condition)
VTLA settings for item category KLN (free of charge item):Condition Order requirements – 1 Header
VTFL settings for item category KLN:
Pricing Type – D Copy pricing elements unchanged
Price Source – E Delivery/Order
There are times when the freight charges will be added to the sales order, but I also need to be able to add them directly on the delivery.
When charges are added directly to the sales order, they will flow thru to the invoice without an issue, but when I try to add at the delivery level, they are not populating, which results in $0 invoice.
I am not receiving any kind of error messages when trying to add the charges.
We also have this situation with standard orders, but I am not having any problems with it. I tried to mimic that set up for free of charge orders, but it is not functioning properly.
Any assistance would be much appreciated.
Thanks!

Hi Amitesh,
Yes, the condition type used in the Sales Order is the same, ZFRC and it is also a header condition.
The condition analysis is not available in the invoice because there is no condition in the invoice. Below are screen shots of the analysis from the LINE ITEM of the delivery note (there is not analysis available on the header) and the header details of the conditions from the invoice and the delivery.
Line Item Analysis:
Delivery Header Details:
Invoice Header Details:
Please let me know if you need further information.
Thank you for your assistance!

Freight Condition in PO

At time of Creation of Purchase Order, we donot know the exact amount of freight etc.
The Material Supplier is not the Transport vendor.
Hence ,we need a Pricing Condition under planned delivery charges , which will not be displayed in Print out and does nt get added the PO print Grand Total.
And while doing LIV we can account frieght under Planned delivery cost.
We are not comfortable with the (subsequent) direct debit to material is MIRO,
as it is an audit problem since we donot have the track for which Purchase Order it is accountable.
And it hits the Price difference account.
How we can built this condition in SAP .
what are the basic things to be taken care to configure this requirement?

Hi,
Create a new condition copying existing freight condition FRA1
keep the condition category as B delivery costs-creates the separate line item in migo accounting doc
then make that condition manual entry has priority - u can put freight value in PO
Make it accural tick -it will post to provision for freight account
IN SCHEMA
dont put X - IN print column it will not get printed
assign account and provision key and assign account for provision in schema FR1 etc
make the condition statistical tick-it will not add to the gross price
when you create po add value of freight - no value addition to netpr add freight vendor
IN GR seperate line item for provision account
IN MIRO select delivery costs and pay to freight vendor
do let me know
BR
Diwakar

Freight conditions in purchase orders

Ladies and Gentlemen, I am trying to set up a freight condition that allows for freight charges we deal with to be divided up by dollar amounts instead of percentage or by the quantities involved. Is there a way to configure the condition to allocate freight chargers to each line item based on the dollar amount?
example:
line one is for 1 ea at 5 dollars
line two is for 5 ea at 10 dollars
input freight condition for a charge of 20 dollars where 5 dollars goes to line 1 and 15 goes to line 2 in the detailed section.
Thanks,
Jeff

Hello Lakshmipathi,
Thank you for your prompt reply.
I understand the VKOA & OB40 settings.
But the issue here is that I can see Tax Codes & GL Account in Sales Order for Condition Types which are marked as "Prices" & "Discount & Surcharge" in V/06. Now the Basic understanding & experience I have always had was that while creating Condition Records (VK11), system will ask for Tax Codes only for Condition Types that are marked as "Taxes" in V/06.
But in my case in VK11 for Basic & Discount Condition type there is no Tax Code, but in Sales Order, Tax Code & GL account is visible against these Basic & Discount Condition Types.
Hope I have put up the question clearly...
Thanks,
Jignesh Mehta

Default vendor not appearing in freight condition type ZVCF

Hi All,
After going all the forums I am posting this issue.I have mainatined condition record for the frieght vendor with key combition of vendor, customer(Zfield) and material.
I have mainatined partner functions for VN with GS partner type.
When I create PO ZVCF condition type is triggering in the PO but in the condition type details the main vendor is picking. Could you please let me know is this standard behaviur or need to do any cutmisation for this.
Attched screen shots for your refernce
Insted of picking GS 831092 it is picking main vendor 830970
Regards,
Chand Basha Shaik

Go to M/06 and input your Frieght condition type and enter the Condition type and in Control Data 2 tab enter Value A against Exclusion and Save.
Now Maintain conditon record for the required combination in MEK1 or MEK31 and enter the required details along with the rate and choose the line item and click on Magnifier and here you need to enter the Frieght vendor and save.
Now create Purchase order and see if the required Condition type is automated into the Purchase order. If automated, select the Freight condition and click on Magnifier and here you will be able to see the Frieght Vendor.
Ensure Manual check is removed from the Pricing Procedure against the Frieght Conditon type. Else the condition record doesnot work.
Alternately, Maintain the Conditon record with combination Vendor 830970 Customer 137955 Material 902 and choose the line item in MEK1 or MEK2 and input the Frieght Vendor ie.831092 and Save.
Now Create Purchase order and check once again.

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