French words with quotation mark can't be searched

I'm using RH7 to create a project in French. When generating
the WebHelp I enable the "TOC", "Index" and "Search" tabs.
Everything looks fine until I use the Search Function. I type a
word with quotation mark, such as "l'émetteur" or "d'actions",
in the search box. It returns no result although I know for sure
they appear in my project in many places.
Please help!

This is definitely a problem in RH7. Has anybody found a solution? Please?
Another problem is that the index does not sort alphabetically. RH is putting these words at the end of the index, even though diacritics do not affect alphabetical order in French:
âge
èdition
ètats
Anybody?
Eileen

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