Fresh XP install on SATA Raid 0

I can not seem to get windows to recognize the array I have created in the bios. This is what I have done so far. I created the raid 0 array using 2 Maxtor 80 gig SATA drives. They are connected to the Promise SATA controller. I create the array using the FastBuild utility which creates a functional Raid 0 array. Then when I go to install XP, I hit F6 when it asks for the drivers. The problem is it never asks for the floppy disk containing the Promise drivers. XP says that I don't have any drives installed and therefore cannot install because there isn't a hard drive. What is the problem? Could it be that my powersupply is too low wattage, and that XP can't find the drives because they aren't getting enough juice?
Here are my specs:
K8T Neo
AMD Athlon 64 3200+
2 x 512 megs Geil DDR400 memory
Samsung combo drive
ATI 9600 Pro video card
2 x Maxtor 7200 80 gig hard drives
Antec 300 Watt PS

The Power supply does seem like a likely cause of problems here. One thing to note is to look at the sticker on the Power supply and note all the voltages along with their corrisponding amps here.
Here is the deal. You could have a 600w PSU and still have a low amp max on the 12 volt bus. The new motherboard requires more Amps than past systems did on the 12volt bus in this case. I am currently upgrading from an AMD 1200 system to a 3400+. The power supply I currently have is a 450w unit that only produces a max of 11 amps on the 12 volt bus. I would just toast it with the new system parts. While it is perfectly fine for the existing system it is junk for the new stuff.
I did note though that you have a 300w PSU which is likely way to low in any case. You may want to look here for some of the other topics that discuss power supplies to get a handle on what you should have.
Having enough power is your freind.

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Good day, I have not been sucessfull in gettind the onboard SATA working, and when I tried a promise SATA (non raid) controller card, the system halted at the 378 screen, I guess they were conflicting.
Now that I still want SATA I would like to know if this card:
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=150917&Category_Code=HDCards
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BigMak,
There are several things you need to do to use the onboard SATA RAID:
1) Set SCSI in the Boot Order of the BIOS
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If you are going to use a PCI SATA Contoller, you need to put it in PCI Slot 3.
Take Care,
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P.S. as for your question in the other thead, I do love my Raptor Drives.

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Hello,
My objective is to set up 2 RAID volumes (one in RAID0 + one in RAID1) using Intel RAID Matrix Manager.
After having enabled RAID mode on BIOS, created the 2 RAID volumes and pressed F6 at the beginning of WinXP PRO installation without any problem, I am stuck when one file from Intel SATA RAID driver floppy needs to be written on the disk.
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How did you solved this ?
I Googled and found this page which was very useful (the blue text is a link; you can click on it).
In fact I already knew how to do it using nLite (which I normally use), but now I tried their F6 floppy advice for educational purposes and that worked as well!
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Ok, Im gonna post all the details because I have also tried some things peeps suggested and they have not worked so I think maybe I have a different problem.
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Originally posted by Cozman
hmmmmm as far as i know u still have to enter the via sata bios to tell it it has a single drive .. or it wont be seen by the windows driver during the install process ... although ur not createing a raid array .. u do need the sata bios to know it has a drive connected by creating an array ... thats what ive found through experience although i could be wrong in this case .. im no expert
Just to info !!
I have install Win2Kpro_SP4 + WinXP_SP1 on a SATA Disk Seagate 160GB
1. Connet the driv to SATA1 on the Via controller then but a Bootable Windows CDROM in Set Bios to Boot on CDROM then Setup will start, then press F6 load Via Raid SATA driver first option if the win is WinXP then it will setup files then press F8 then it will Exsaming the Disk get to the Partions screen then select to install on the partion (EG 160GB) then windows will promt you to Format the Drive. (on Via it takes my system 3sek to format the disk !!) then it will go on installing Windows. Done.!
Regards.
Microsoft Certified Professional (70-215 + 70-217)

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Sorry for the late reply. I finally got to install Windows XP Pro 64bit onto my RS480M2-IL configured as SATA RAID 0 (striping) with 2 80G DiamondPlus SATA hard drives. The sata drive that worked is the one on this link:
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PROBLEM RESOLVED: SATA RAID Vista x64 Driver Errors on P45 Platinum

I have installed 5 WD 640GB SATA drives on my P45 Platinum PC build. Using the Intel Matrix Storage BIOS program, I configured them as RAID 0 (480 GB) and RAID 5 (2 TB) volumes.
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Quote from: Jack the Newbie on 30-October-08, 17:39:54
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Hello there
I need a help in installing a Sata hard drive ,it is WD 250 GB , my motherboard is 865PE Noe2 , the bios is the latest one
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Trying to install a 400GB barracuda 7200.10- tried using on board sata port 1 but no joy. so bought a silicon image pci card sil 3114, but still unable to get that install correctly to recognise the sata drive.
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Read Moan Guide 1st
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I entered on MSI driver dowload page, put my model, and i found out that the RAID driver for win x64 wasn't released (nforce3 ultra), but in the same page was the driver for the nforce4, so I supposed it was compatible. I made the driver disk. press F6 and he askme for the drivers, ok, i introduce BOTH drivers, he detects perefctly the SATA RAID (stripping) format the disk, copy the files and ask me for some .CATof teh raid driver that wasn't on the zip file.... omit files, reboots, completes the instalation, but on the first boot of win x64 when it's just about to show the windows screen, a bue windows, and resets the pc so fast that's unreadable. fail safe start.. same crash.
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HI! i'm the one wih the raid problem on a k8n neo2....
That's what a i Did.. i unpacked the exe and copy the files in a floppy... question is: if i do that, windows instaler askme for some files that aren't in the .exe, anway it reconices the raid and everithing goes fine until the first BOOT on windos... it shows a blue screen, butremoves it so fast that i cant read it or pause the system. But i know it's a raid problem because if i install it on a ide disk it works.
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How many IDE drives & CDrom can be installed with SATA drives??
i have 2 IDE hard disks & 2 CDROM drives: can install SATA hard disk added to these drives or do i have to remove some???
& if it can be added, can i install 2 SATA drives???
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875P Neo-FISR (PCB 2.0)
875P Neo-LSR (PCB 1.0)
875P Neo-FIS2R (PCB 1.0)
All of these boards will have the following ports provider by the chipsets ICH5R south bridge.
2 x SATA (Supporting 2 SATA HDD drives)
2 x PATA (Supporting 4 IDE devices)
All 6 of these can be used at the same time (provided you are using win XP or 2K) you just need to make sure yor BIOS is set right.
->INTEGRATED PERIPHERALS
->ON-CHIP IDE CONFIG
ATA CONFIG: S-ATA ONLY or P-ATA ONLY
S-ATA/P-ATA KEEP ENABLED: YES
OPERATE MODE:
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If you have the 875P Neo-FIS2R (PCB 1.0) you will also have the following ports provided by the Promise PDC20378 PCI controller:
2 x SATA (Supporting 2 SATA HDD drives)
1 x PATA (Supporting 1 Master IDE HDD drive)
The PATA port is limited to 1 Master HDD by the lite BIOS. This can in theory be upgraded to the full BIOS supporting a master and a slave, but this may obviously void your warranty.
So the answer to your origional question is:
2 x SATA HDDs and 4 x IDE HDD/CDROM if you have 875P Neo-FISR (PCB 2.0) or 875P Neo-LSR (PCB 1.0)
or
4 x SATA HDDs, 1 x IDE HDD (2 if you modify the BIOS) and 4 x IDE HDD/CDROM if you have 875P Neo-FIS2R (PCB 1.0)

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All --
Apart from the discussion as to if RAID actually benefits a home desktop system, I am wondering if anyone has the lowdown on using 3rd party SATA raid cards to support the INTERNAL hard drives on the Mac Pro series?
My Mac Pro is still slated to be built at Apple and for now I have the minimum memory and HD spec being requested at Apple, with the plan to upgrade the memory and drives from OWC or another vendor.
I've toyed with the idea of utilizing Disk Utility's software RAID features (e.g. RAID 0 for scratch disks, RAID 1 for boot, RAID 0+1 for all else.) I've also toyed with the notion of searching for a hardware raid solution which would allow me to transfer the internal SATA cable runs from the motherboard to a host adapter card for an internal multi-channel experience (with options to create and break mirrors to external devices for backup purposes.)
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Has anyone experience or utilized 3rd party hardware raid controllers which can connect to the internal HD bays? Are there limitations to this (ie, does the boot drive HAVE to reside off the internal motherboard controllers, or can an internal hardware controller successfully boot the system) of which ought be noted?
Finally, in the event that a host adapter card cannot drive the interna bays, can anyone give feedback to hardware SATA cards to power external drive bays with support for Disk Utility (to allow RAID1 pairings of internal drives to external snapshot-backup drives)?
Thanks for your time,
Ian Poulin
Richmond, Va

I am wondering if anyone has the lowdown on using 3rd party SATA raid cards to support the INTERNAL hard drives on the Mac Pro series?
There are many 3rd party controllers that support the internal HDs if an internal iPass connector is used. The problem is that some are bootable but most are not.
The Areca ARC-1680ix-12 and the HighPoint RocketRAID 4320 are bootable. However, the system cannot be installed via the Apple DVD. Instead the user needs to clone a boot drive with the proper drivers to the boot volume on the controller and then boot from the 3rd party controller.
The other issue I found is that these controllers do not support Boot Camp. If Boot Camp is desired, my recommendation would be to leave the internal HDs on the Mac Pro internal bus intact and use the 3rd party controller for external storage. This method provides four internal bays that are bootable, support Boot Camp and can be used for system backups. I use the 3rd party controller for external storage for large RAID sets and hot swapping hard disks.
With the internal bays intact and external hot swap RAID storage available the user can support Boot Camp, multiple system volumes and large external RAID sets. From my experience using a 3rd party controller with the internal HD bays always has some limitations. The user usually does not realize it unit later when Boot Camp does not work or the computer fails on a system upgrade or the controller does not work at all with a new version of Mac OS X.
Staying with the standard internal Mac Pro bay configuration will be the best configuration to avoid compatibility issues with future versions of Mac OS X. It is rumored that the new Snow Leopard may require 64-bit drivers. If that is the case, I would expect most if not all existing 3rd party controller drivers to fail. Some drivers will be upgraded after a few months while others may not. Having the internal Mac Pro SATA controller intact should at least allow the Mac Pro to boot if my guess about compatibility issues is correct.
can anyone give feedback to hardware SATA cards to power external drive bays with support for Disk Utility (to allow RAID1 pairings of internal drives to external snapshot-backup drives)?
There are a large number of external controllers that work with Disk Utility. Here are some of my favorites.
1. FirmTek SeriTek/2SE2-E and the SeriTek/5PM
http://firmtek.stores.yahoo.net/sata5pm2se2.html
http://www.amug.org/amug-web/html/amug/reviews/articles/firmtek/5pm/
2. Sonnet Tempo E4P
http://www.amug.org/amug-web/html/amug/reviews/articles/sonnet/mac-pro/
3. DAT Optic eSATA_PCIe8
http://www.amug.org/amug-web/html/amug/reviews/articles/datoptic/pcie8/
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