From Forms Product Management - XP Support

As you know, Oracle is committed to Oracle Forms and is focusing its development, testing and certification resources on Oracle9i Forms, the latest release of the product, part of Oracle9i Application Server. Therefore, the certification of previous version of Oracle Forms (Forms 6i Client/Server) was not planned on recent versions of the Windows operating systems (Windows XP).
Given the feedback we received about this announcement from various user forums and from direct discussions with customers, we have undergone a review of our policy. This has primarily taken into account business cases provided by customers and partners, supporting the case for XP certification. As a result, we are now of the opinion, that even though many organizations have already scheduled their upgrade to Oracle9i Forms, the support and certification of Windows XP for Forms 6i Client/Server deployment appears, in the short term, to be necessary to ease the transition towards this upgrade.
As such, Oracle Forms 6i with Patchset 13 (6.0.8.22) and above will be certified for Client/Server deployment on Windows XP Professional. Windows XP will be the final major Windows operating system that Oracle will certify for Forms 6i Client/Server deployment. Of course, Oracle9i Forms Developer and the Oracle9i Forms Client (web based deployment) will continue to evolve and be certified on new operating systems as they are released.
Regards
Grant Ronald
Forms Product Management

Thanks Grant. I understand the part that Developer 6i Patch 13 is certified for client/server (builder and runtime) deployment on Windows XP. But, can you clarify on that if Developer 6i Patch 13 both Forms and Report runtime is deployed against 8.0.x, will this be certified? Does database version is 8.0.5 make any difference on whether certification is still in effect?
Thanks,
Viktor

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From Forms Product Management -OID Support

We have added two new viewlets which show how to integrate your Forms application with Oracle9i Internet Directory. Check out http://otn.oracle.com/sample_code/products/forms/content.html and look for the "New!" flag beside the new viewlets.
As always, let us know if you have any feedback.
Thanks
Grant Ronald
Forms Product Management

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From Forms Product Management - New Forms Articles on OTN

The Forms Product Management team are proud to announce that we
have been running a number of daily features which highlight some
of the great features of Oracle Forms. Just to keep to updated
on these features, the current list of published articles are:
6i Features
The new Forms Listener Servlet Architecture
http://otn.oracle.com/products/ias/daily/sept28.html
Using Single Sign-On in Forms6i
http://otn.oracle.com/products/ias/daily/oct26.html
Forms 6i Reports Integration
http://otn.oracle.com/products/ias/daily/oct24.html
Forms Java Importer
http://otn.oracle.com/products/ias/daily/oct15.html
Oracle9iAS Forms Services: Multiple Client Platform Support
http://otn.oracle.com/products/ias/daily/oct10.html
Oracle9iAS Forms Services: Forms Integration with Oracle SCM
http://otn.oracle.com/products/ias/daily/oct30.html
9i Features
Dynamic Bean Manager
http://otn.oracle.com/products/ias/daily/nov07.html
Oracle9iAS Forms Services: New Features in Release 9i
http://otn.oracle.com/products/ias/daily/nov19.html
We hope that this information helps keep you informed and may
serve as a reminder to the wealth of tools to aid you in
developing Forms application.
As always, we appreciate your feedback on this, or any other
matters.
Best Regards
Grant Ronald
Forms Product Management

We do not have a beta/pre-prodcution release of Forms9i
available for download, however the production version should be
available early in the new year.
Regards
Grant
Forms Product Management

Announcement from Forms Product Management - new Forms Demos/Samples

The Forms Product Management team are please to announce our new Forms Sample Code/Demo page
http://otn.oracle.com/sample_code/products/forms/content.html
We have included demos and sample code for topics which generate alot of questions on OTN.
For example,
When deploying Forms on the web, how can I load files from the client machine?
How do I call Java from Forms?
The new features of Oracle9i Forms
Can I add spell checking to my Forms application?
These demos are created by the Product Managers to show you, not only the features, but the steps involved to do it yourself.
It's like having your own tutorial from the Forms Product Managers!!!
We hope this helps and as always, please let us know if you have any comments.
Regards
Forms Product Management Team

FORMS 9i RELEASE DATE : End of year 2001
Date: Oct 8, 2001 09:01 PT
Towards the end of this year.
Regards
Grant Ronald
Forms Product Management
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Shay Shmelzer
Date : Jul 19, 2001 09:40 PT
Expect it towards the end of this year.
re:re:ifs mail classes (please help)

Announcement from Forms Product Management

We often get asked about "real" customers who are deploying "real" Forms applications. In order to give you some examples,
we have a customer testimonials page which documents their success with Forms.
For example, on the Forms OTN page we have highlighted Metro who have gone live with 4,000 concurrent Forms users.
http://www.oracle.com/ip/develop/ids/customers/metro.html
You can find our more if you visit
http://www.oracle.com/ip/develop/ids/customers/index.html
Regards
Grant Ronald
Forms Product Management

FORMS 9i RELEASE DATE : End of year 2001
Date: Oct 8, 2001 09:01 PT
Towards the end of this year.
Regards
Grant Ronald
Forms Product Management
Connect dialog - JDBC Database string
Shay Shmelzer
Date : Jul 19, 2001 09:40 PT
Expect it towards the end of this year.
re:re:ifs mail classes (please help)

From Forms Product Management - Success of Oracle Forms

The Forms Product Management team are pleased to announce we have posted a new paper on OTN which tells you
about the success of Oracle Forms.
If you want to find out who is using Forms, the kind of applications that are best targetted by Forms, and what is the future
of Oracle Forms then please go to:
http://otn.oracle.com/products/forms/htdocs/Forms_Success/forms_success.html
As, always, we welcome your feedback.
Regards
Grant Ronald
Forms Product Management

Oracle Forms is quit impressive as both a client/server and web-based solution. I have yet to see an application run over the web the way Oracle Forms does. It appears as a client/server application, except it's completely web-based.
That's quite amazing, however, I have found that the rich interface and the sophistication of running Forms over the web comes with a big cost. The 8MB Jinitiator download turns a lot of people off.
What I'm really wondering is if there is anyone out there who is using Oracle Forms as a web solution ?
Thanks for your time.
Best Regards,
Bob Mazzo

From Forms Product Management - New Diagnostic Document

I've just posted a new document on OTN which goes into great depth on how to debug errors, bugs and performance issues when deploying Forms on the Web.
The document is linked from the news section on http://otn.oracle.com/products/forms or you can look at all of the related papers by clicking to view the 9i papers.
As always, we are keen to hear your feedback.
Thanks
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Forms Product Management

Grant...can you also tell us if you expect to release a pre-904 webutil release?
And where can we log errors about webutil beta, since it's not officially supported? I'd like to log a bug named in a previous post of me: webutil: webutil_file.file_open_dialog with filter doesn't work as expected

From Forms Product Management - Free Forms Upgrade Workshops

We are pleased to annouce more dates for the Forms upgrade to the web workshops. If you are considering moving your client/server application to the web come to these events and hear directly from Oracle's Product Management team about the benefits and the tips and techniques.
Details at otn.oracle.com/products/forms
Regards
Grant Ronald
Forms Product Management

I still get the 404 error.
I go to http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/forms/index.html then follow the link titled "Free Oracle Forms Upgrade Workshops" which leads to http://www.oracle.com/go/?&Src=3581382&Act=4
That URL results in a 404 error :-(
PS. I just tested it using MS Internet Explorer and then it seems to work (FireFox gives me the 404 error)

From Forms Product Management -Using Forms and SCM

Oracle9i Forms and Oracle9i Software Configuration Manager (SCM) are integrated so that software configuration management can be done directly from Oracle9i Forms Developer.
Check out this new paper in the "NEWS" section on http://otn.oracle.com/products/forms
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Regards
Grant Ronald
Forms Product Management

Grant
I don't think you'll get too many replies. I expect most people here are either committed to using Web Forms already (and so don't need this functionality) or else are still in client-server mode (and so don't understand what you asking).
We are just in the process of migrating from Forms4.5 to 9i (I'm in the WebUtil beta) and we are still finding out all sorts of non-obvious things about web-deployment - don't get me started on how awful the whole GIF thing is! So I'm not really qualified to have an opinion about Webstart. I only have the vaguest idea what it does and I'm not sure I want to read up about it just so I can tell you whether to go ahead with it.
What I will say is this:
(1) Anything that makes 9i Forms more like a client-server experience for the users would be a good thing, bceause it would minimise the shock of transition.
(2) Choice is a good thing. Your recent experience of developers' spleen over the removal of client-server should tell you that people respond well to being given options and badly to having them removed.
(3) If I've correctly understood Haris Peco in their second point we could get rid of O9iAS and that would be flipping marvellous for everybody (except possibly the VP in charge of O9iAS Sales :P).
My tuppence ha'penny worth.
Cheers, APC

From Forms Product Management - Using Enterprise Manager

I have just posted a new viewlet which shows the Enterprise Manager features in 10g. If you have not used EM before its a great high level demo which shows you how yuo can manage your Forms applications from a console. For those already familiar with EM you will be able to check out some of the new work we have done in integrating Forms and EM.
If you go to http://otn.oracle.com/products/forms you can see the feature on the news list.
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Grant Ronald
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Grant
I don't think you'll get too many replies. I expect most people here are either committed to using Web Forms already (and so don't need this functionality) or else are still in client-server mode (and so don't understand what you asking).
We are just in the process of migrating from Forms4.5 to 9i (I'm in the WebUtil beta) and we are still finding out all sorts of non-obvious things about web-deployment - don't get me started on how awful the whole GIF thing is! So I'm not really qualified to have an opinion about Webstart. I only have the vaguest idea what it does and I'm not sure I want to read up about it just so I can tell you whether to go ahead with it.
What I will say is this:
(1) Anything that makes 9i Forms more like a client-server experience for the users would be a good thing, bceause it would minimise the shock of transition.
(2) Choice is a good thing. Your recent experience of developers' spleen over the removal of client-server should tell you that people respond well to being given options and badly to having them removed.
(3) If I've correctly understood Haris Peco in their second point we could get rid of O9iAS and that would be flipping marvellous for everybody (except possibly the VP in charge of O9iAS Sales :P).
My tuppence ha'penny worth.
Cheers, APC

From Forms Product Management - New Oracle9i Forms Course Available

The Forms development team are proud to announce that we have a new classroom course for Oracle9i Forms available.
Form more information see the link on the Forms home page http://otn.oracle.com/products/forms/
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Grant Ronald
Forms Product Management

Grant...can you also tell us if you expect to release a pre-904 webutil release?
And where can we log errors about webutil beta, since it's not officially supported? I'd like to log a bug named in a previous post of me: webutil: webutil_file.file_open_dialog with filter doesn't work as expected

From Forms Product Management - New Reports Integration White Paper

I've posted a new white paper on OTN which explains how to call Reports with a parameter from Forms Services using the Forms RUN_REPORT_OBJECT Built-in.
We have also included a sample Java Bean which allows the userid parameter to be stored in a cookie.
To download the paper, go to http://otn.oracle.com/products/forms , its the top news item.
Regards
Grant Ronald
Forms Product Management

Brian,
there are four possible reasons why this could happen
1. you didn't specify the correct domain. A wrong domain makes the cookie not accessible for the Reports Server
2. The Reports Server is in another timezone than the Forms Client. This way the default validity of teh cookie is exceeded to the time you request the cookie. If this is the case, add the offset to the max age value
3. You change dthe encryption key either on the Reports Server or the cookie client.Default value is reports9i for Oracle9i Reports.
4. - unlikely - you try to run this solution iwth Forms and Reports 6i. This doesn't work.
Frank

From Forms Product Management - New "HOW TO" on calling a Web Service

We've published a new "HOW TO" on how to call a Web Service from Forms.
Check out
http://otn.oracle.com/products/forms/htdocs/Forms_WebService_How_To.htm
Regards
Grant Ronald
Forms Product Management

We do not have a beta/pre-prodcution release of Forms9i
available for download, however the production version should be
available early in the new year.
Regards
Grant
Forms Product Management

From Forms Product Management - Free Upgrade Workshops

Just a reminder about our Forms Upgrade Workshops... Details on otn.oracle.com/products/forms.
There are free half day events delivered by the Product Management team (usually me!) on how to move your Forms application to the Web.
Regards
Grant Ronald

the register now button does not appear to do anythingYou need to phone them. Yes actually speak to a real human being, which is a refreshing novelty. Also, it's the small number at the bottom, not the BIG telephobe number immediately above it.
The document does not say it is fully booked, That's internet time-lag - I bagged the last spot for a colleague yesterday afternoon.
Cheers, APC

From Forms Product Management - Using WebStart with Forms

I noticed a number of posts on this forum asking if you can run Forms as an application (using WebStart) rather than an applet in a browser.
I would be interested to know the reasons why people want to do this. Is it so that there is no browser windows? Is it because it has more of a "desktop feel"...
I would be interested to hear any of your reasons.
Thanks in advance
Grant Ronald
Forms Product Management

Grant
I don't think you'll get too many replies. I expect most people here are either committed to using Web Forms already (and so don't need this functionality) or else are still in client-server mode (and so don't understand what you asking).
We are just in the process of migrating from Forms4.5 to 9i (I'm in the WebUtil beta) and we are still finding out all sorts of non-obvious things about web-deployment - don't get me started on how awful the whole GIF thing is! So I'm not really qualified to have an opinion about Webstart. I only have the vaguest idea what it does and I'm not sure I want to read up about it just so I can tell you whether to go ahead with it.
What I will say is this:
(1) Anything that makes 9i Forms more like a client-server experience for the users would be a good thing, bceause it would minimise the shock of transition.
(2) Choice is a good thing. Your recent experience of developers' spleen over the removal of client-server should tell you that people respond well to being given options and badly to having them removed.
(3) If I've correctly understood Haris Peco in their second point we could get rid of O9iAS and that would be flipping marvellous for everybody (except possibly the VP in charge of O9iAS Sales :P).
My tuppence ha'penny worth.
Cheers, APC

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