From Pagemaker 7 to Indesign CS4

My employer is looking to upgrade from Pagemaker 7 to Indesign CS4 for our publication needs. I have Indesign CS2 at home, so it definitely looks like Indesign will make things easier. However, the main publication we will be using in Indesign relied heavily on the "Paste Special" function in Pagemaker, and I don't know what the equivalent of that function is in Indesign. (Maybe there's that function in CS4 but I know it's not in CS2) If there isn't a similar function in CS4, what function can I use to paste an Excel file on a page where, if edited in Excel, the Indesign page would also update. Does that make sense?

For some reason I was thinking of the paste in place It had a different name in PM and I was thinking paste special was it.
here you go the link to the help files
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/InDesign/6.0/WSa285fff53dea4f8617383751001ea8cb3f-70d3a.html#W Sa285fff53dea4f8617383751001ea8cb3f-70d1a
Adobe IDCS4 search for paste special.
http://community.adobe.com/help/search.html?searchterm=paste+special&q=paste+special&l=ind esign_product_adobelr&x=0&y=0&area=0&lr=en_US&hl=en_US

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