From Photoshop to Gimp

Having worked as a web-designer for 6 months using Photoshop, I spend last weekend exploring the possibilities of GIMP convincing myself that I could master it with minimal effort.
How wrong I was...
The GIMP interface, although nice, was just WAY too different for me.  Now, I'm not a serious graphics designer (anymore), and all i really want to do is make some cool buttons/wallpapers/etc to spruce up my AL and show it off in the 'monthly screenshots' post.  8) But the things that got me stuck were:
1.  The hotkeys (which I use a LOT!!) are so completely different.
2.  The names given to tools/effects/commands are all different.
3.  The windowing interface.  What's the justification behind having so many windows scattered across the desktop?  I hate it.  With Photoshop it's one main window.  In Gimp, you mis-click and you're either in another application or you've clicked on the desktop.  Either way, you lose the hotkeys.  Very annoying!
Thankfully, just today, I came across a bit of help to tackle two of the problems above!
To tackle the issue of hotkeys, I'd recommend this site below.  it contains a remapping of all tools as per what they are in photoshop:
http://epierce.freeshell.org/gimp/gimp_ps.php
For the tools/effects/commands you can use GimpShop, which is VERY nice indeed! Check it out at:
http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=241
(somewhere down the bottom of the page someone's even provided an ArchLinux pagakage!)
Now, the only issue remaining is the scattered-window-interface.  Argh!!  Putting that aside, I'm LOVING my Gimp now!  I wish I had the patience to learn Gimp the Giimp way, but as I said, I don't want to dwelve too deep into it.  I just want to get my ideas on screen without forking out $1000 AUD :shock:
Anyways, enough rambling.  My icons look ugly.  It's design time!!  :twisted:

KENTOSI wrote:
iphitus wrote:
Everyone bags the interface.
It's not like photoshop is innocent too
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e … _2_OSX.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e … eraraw.jpg
I see multiple windows there.....
No... there's no problems with the interface design in the gimp. IMHO, it's superior. MDI based applications are the spawn of the devil.
iphitus
Hi iphitus,
I'm not sure about the apple screenshot you posted - but with the windows MDI interafce, say you clicked in the grey-background of the main window by mistake.  now, say you wanted to use the 'rectangular-select tool'.  You press 'M' in photoshop, and you're free to use that tool in any image window inside the MDI interface.
And you're free to use the tool in any of the gimp's images.
Now in Gimp there is no MDI interface.   So say you click on the background by mistake.  Then you hit 'R' (which is the Gimp version of the 'M' key from above).  Nothing happens.  Why? Coz you've lost focus to the application by clicking on the desktop (or some other window).
Well that's partially because you use a broken window manager, but really, it's not that bad, i know clicking the desktop by accident has never been an issue for me.
Solution: Go into GIMP, Preferences, Window Management, Set Hint for toolbox:  'Keep Above'.
Then maximize the image you work with and your gimp toolbox will be on top the whole time.
If you find the toolbox too big and space consuming, go to Preferences, theme, and select small.
What I'm getting at is application focus.  Why should I have to alt-tab to get to windows that are part of the same application?  It doesn't make sense to me ...
Inside Photoshop, you still have to change windows somehow. Probably using it's own keyboard combination, or the mouse. I'm betting you just use the mouse.
Whereas in the GIMP, you may use a standard keyboard combination, standard across the whole desktop. Not custom for each application, one to learn rather than ten. Or you may use the mouse, which is what I suspect you already use in Photoshop.
MDI vs SDI has been debated to death, take a google, you'll realise how flawed that MDI is. Which is why Microsoft is moving away from it, and Apple never used it in the first place.
Me, I'm a GIMP user who then went to Photoshop for school. And I find photoshop ridiculously frustrating to deal with. the windows within photoshop arent managed by the window manager, hence alt-tab and other standard forms of navigation fail to work.
I'm also used to the focus following my mouse around within linux, I dont have to click a window to use it, and it becomes annoying when that window I mouse over doesnt pop up as I would expect it to. While focus following the mouse is afaik non existant in windows, if they implemented MDI in Gimp, that would break the Gimp for me.
And if it's that bad.... Gimp is open source, write your own GTK MDI widget, enjoy the flames you'll receive, and you can have your own MDI Gimp.
iphitus

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