Front and Rear Audio Through only one Socket - Sound Blaster Live! 24

<p class="MsoNormal">PLEASE HELP ?
<p class="MsoNormal">I'm getting Front and Rear Audio through the front speakers (Front Socket), and nothing out of the back.
All cables are set up correctly; I have reinstalled drivers, updated drivers etc. and the software.
What?s going on ? :S

I'll answer you here, as I believe it may be helpful to other users as well... You will need to download the latest drivers for Li've! 24-bit under Vista, which are available [url="http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download.asp?MainCategory=&nRegionFK=&nCountryFK=& nLanguageFK=&sOSName=Windows+Vista+32-bit&region=&Product_Name=Li've%2+24-bit&Product_ID=035&modelnumber=&driverlang=033&OS= 26&drivertype=0&x=29&y=0">here[/url]. These add AudioConsole, which allows you to select CMSS options for your soundcard.
amm44 wrote:
On Windows XP this was never the case, for surround sound I would leave it in Dolby mode.
This is indeed strange... In ProLogic mode, as I already said, it'sproduces?surround sound from the 2 front channels but this is not the same as discrete sound, which is eventually 6-channel analog or Dolby Digital. It really all depends on the content you are playing. Also note, that a lot of the Dolby movies available on the web, may use AC-3 format, but may still be stereo only. On this content ProLogig will produce nice surround sound. (Media Player Classic states clearly how many channels are actually available)?If you however playback a true 6-channel AC-3 movie and you have ProLogic enabled, you will most probably not hear any dialogue, or just its echoe... (Assuming that you leave the AC-3 decoding to happen on the soundcard, which will then send the signal through the 6 analog channels)?How is your soundcard connected to the receiver? SPDIF/Optical or only analog??

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I'm trying to have to separate sinks so that I am able to route some applications to my speakers, using the audio jacks from the back of my case, while other apps should play in my headphones using the jack from the front panel.
Right now what I hear in the speakers(back) I also hear in my headphones (front)
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device.buffering.fragment_size = "176400"
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Hello fellow archers!
I'm trying to have to separate sinks so that I am able to route some applications to my speakers, using the audio jacks from the back of my case, while other apps should play in my headphones using the jack from the front panel.
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