Front Row IS Included

FWIW Front Row is included in the install DVD, and probably ships on the MP as well. You can use this --> http://www.keyspan.com/products/usb/errf1/homepage.spml or this -->http://www.keyspan.com/products/usb/urm15t/homepage.spml to control Front Row.

I got Front Row enabled on my Mac Pro with the help of this hint:
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2006110314322775
The basic principle is to trick Front Row into believing your mouse provided a Remote Control personality.
However, I am still keeping my hopes up that Front Row coming pre-installed on the Mac Pros means we will see updated Cinema Displays with integrated iSight and Remote Control Receivers. This would allow us to use Front Row without any hacks, so it would make sense for Apple to pre-install it.
Mac Pro Mac OS X (10.4)

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I sure hope the next Front Row update includes the Apple TV 2 functionality

I bought a Mac mini the day Leopard was released, and now it is my media server. It was that or an Apple TV, and I liked having more control plus a DVD player in the box.
Front Row 2.0 is nice, but I've been trying to find add-ons, like Sapphire, to give it more features. Nothing yet will play YouTube or other internet video, which is one of the things I'd really like. So, after today's cool demo of ATV 2.0 software, I'm hoping that Steve & Co will keep Front Row on parity with ATV.
After all, Mac users would like to rent HD movies & and show of our Macs too!

Vibeeen wrote:
After all, Mac users would like to rent HD movies & and show of our Macs too!
AppleTV includes HDMI and HDCP, which are not present in Apple computers. Although computers play HD movie trailers just fine, I suspect that studio demands for DRM would ensure that rental HD downloads (or HD-DVD or Blu-ray) would not appear on a computer. Unless the computer had HDMI and HDCP enforced.

FRONT ROW NOT INCLUDED IN LION????? (Rephrased as question since they erased my post!)

So I won't get my post, that many people we're discussing and figuring out a work around for Front Row, deleted by admin's I'll rephrase as a question.
WHY DID APPLE DELETE FRONT ROW? WILL THE REPLACE IT WITH ANOTHER APP? AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT THINKS APPLE TV IS POINTLESS IF YOU HAVE A MACBOOK WITH HDMI OUTPUT?
I hope instead of the admin's deleting this post (which to me shows they don't like the fact that we're downing Apple TV) they will give us an answer or some better work around. Otherwise the remote is pointless because if you can't see iTunes small text from across the room there's no way to control your Mac from across the room. Please discuss & don't delete.

No, like I said, Apple TV doesn't have a hard drive, so you can't download anything to it. You can only stream content in real time from other sources, either your Macbook, iPhone, iPad, iPod touch or the internet. There is content available from Apple (and Netflix and MLB) that you can stream from the internet directly to your Apple TV, but it isn't always the same as the downloadable content. For example, you might be able to download a copy of the latest "Parks & Recreation" to your Macbook hard drive and then watch it by streaming it from your Macbook to your Apple TV. But that same episode might not show up in the Apple TV menu as a program available for direct streaming.
I think it's fair to say that Apple TV is an interface and works very similarly to Front Row, it's just makes things more convenient because you don't need to hook your computer up to the TV or worry about balancing your laptop on the edge your entertainment center, etc. It's the size of a hocky puck and fits seamlessly into the rest of your entertainment center.
Are they getting rid of FrontRow because they want to increase Apple TV sales? I don't know, but sometimes I get the feeling that Apple does things more out of a "let them eat cake" arrogance than outright greed. They probably decided in a meeting somewhere that Front Row wasn't "necessary" anymore because Apple TV provides a much more "elegant" solution. The fact that not everyone wants to shell out $99 for an Apple TV is probably not much of a concern to them.

Using Front Row on a second display

TVRow version 2 is now available:
http://sites.google.com/site/robijnx/products/tvrow201
This allows the user to select which display Front Row uses. It is useful for home entertainment (eg using a projector or plasma TV).
This topic is covered in an archived discussion:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1374039&tstart=0
and some more background at:
http://users.tpg.com.au/aoaug/mac_video.html#frontrow
(eg external displays on an iMac G5)
It would be useful if this option was available directly in Front Row settings.

Having used TV Roow 2 for a few weeks, I do find it as nuisance that I cannot swap displays with Front Row running. Sometimes I want to run Front Row on the iMac and other times on the projector. I need to select TV Row from the Dock and change the display option to achieve this. In some respects Version 1 was better because starting TV Row automatically sent Front Row to the projector, whereas starting Front Row with teh Apple Remote left it on the iMac.
Still waiting for Front Row to include a menu to select the display to use...

Front Row on an ibook

I am using an 14" ibook G4. Do anyone know how to enable or install Front Row to an ibook G4?

Your iBook does not meet the Front Row requirements. It is not Front Row enabled.
System Requirements
Mac OS X 10.4.5 or later
Front Row enabled Mac
However, from Douglas McLaughlin:
"Front Row is included for all Macs if you install Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard). Note that Mac OS X 10.5 requires an 867MHz or faster G4 processor. It's possible, if you have the first model iBook G4, that you only have an 800MHz processor. If that's the case, then Leopard is not compatible with your iBook. But, if you have any other newer model iBook, you should be fine. I would be sure to max our your RAM for the best performance.
Since your iBook doesn't have an IR receiver, you'd have to buy a third party remote control. The Keyspan RF Remote for Front Row is specifically designed for use with Front Row. It's "radio" frequency rather than infrared so you don't need any line of sight between the remote and the computer. But, it does have a USB dongle."

Front Row For iBook G4?

Does anyone know if it's possible to put front row on an iBook G4 and be able to use the remote?

Front Row is included for all Macs if you install Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard). Note that Mac OS X 10.5 requires an 867MHz or faster G4 processor. It's possible, if you have the first model iBook G4, that you only have an 800MHz processor. If that's the case, then Leopard is not compatible with your iBook. But, if you have any other newer model iBook, you should be fine. I would be sure to max our your RAM for the best performance.
Since your iBook doesn't have an IR receiver, you'd have to buy a third party remote control. The Keyspan RF Remote for Front Row is specifically designed for use with Front Row. It's "radio" frequency rather than infrared so you don't need any line of sight between the remote and the computer. But, it does have a USB dongle.
-Doug

Front Row disappeared from my computer

Ok, here's the deal. I was having some problems with my optical drive so I took my iMac G5(iSight) to a Mac store. They had to reinstall Tiger, which they did, but now Front Row is no longer on my computer, even though it came with Front Row already installed on it. I stopped back and they said I could use the reinstallation disks to get it back on there, so I put in the disk, clicked on "Reinstall Bundled Software" and it went through the entire software installation process....still no Front Row. Anyone have any clue what's going on here? I gave it to a Mac Store and when I got it back, Front Row was missing. I'm just trying to get figure out how I can get it back.
Thanks in adavance

The guy at the Mac store said that Front Row isn't a part of Tiger so he said they're not responsible...
Who was this guy? Where did you take your iMac in for service? Users of Intel-based Macs can re-install Front Row from the "bundled software" installer on the Mac OS X install disk. However, Front Row is NOT included in the "bundled software" installer for G5 iSight iMacs. Front Row is included in the Mac OS X installer for those Macs. Your technician is misinformed and used the incorrect disk to install Mac OS X. I would take your iMac back and have then use the correct disk to re-install Mac OS X. They are responsible for your copy of Front Row as it IS included with Mac OS X for your model.
-Doug

Universal Dock, Apple Remote, non-Front Row Macs

I know it's possible, using a third-party workaround, to install Front Row on older Macs that don't have the infrared sensor built-in, that's not a problem.
What I want to know is if it's possible — by connecting the USB Universal iPod Dock with Infrared Sensor — to control these older Macs using the Apple Remote Control? Are there any third-party apps or plugins which will let you use the Universal Dock to launch Front Row on these non-infrared Macs?

One IR receiver that works with the Mac Pro is from Twisted Melon, Manta TR1. As you have discovered the Mac pro does not include any sort of IR and the iPod dock with IR does not work. The Manta TR1 works flawlessly with my Mac Pro.
Their website is http://twistedmelon.com/mira/

How do i get front row on my macbook pro

how do i download front row to my macbook brok sofware is lion

Lion does not include Front Row, but possibly this may help:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20084238-263/how-to-install-front-row-on-os -x-lion/?tag=mncol;title

Media Center vs. Front Row

I hate to say, I just watched the keynote, and Steve made a really thoughtless comment that got the crowd cheering.
He had a comparison of the iMac remote, and 2 different Windows XP Media Center remotes from HP and Gateway. He pointed out that the MC remotes had around 50 buttons, and the iMac remote had 6. This is an absurd comparison.
The Media Center remotes allow you to pause, play, record, rewind, and fastforward TV. They also have, EQ controls, volume, audio switching, video input, and many other useful controls.
There's no surround sound with an iMac. There's no hi-def inputs with an iMac. There's just volume, play, rewind, fastforward. (with the remote).
And yes, I own a Media Center PC, and such a copy Front Row is. He's bragging about it like it's new technology, when the Media Center has been around for 4 years or so. He even copied the in-menu interface (once you choose music or video, etc.).
Vikram

Vikram's point was that Media Center has been out first for 4 years and Apple just NOW came out with it. And copied parts of it besides. By the way, other things, like Widgets, has been out for PC's a while before they were included in Tiger. Apple is not as great as they, and Steve Jobs, think they are. And everything Apple is still overpriced compared to PC's.

Front Row in the MacBook Pro

Hey
Is the version of Front Row shipped in Macbook Pro the same as the one in the new Intel MacMini? The Front row description in the apple site http://www.apple.com/macmini/frontrow.html talks about "Let Mac mini and Front Row entertain you by playing songs, slideshows, and videos from other computers in the house"
The reason i am asking is becoz i want to know if one can use the FrontRow In the MacBook Pro to see my Photos, Music, videos that is stored in my PPC MacMini instead of porting the whole collection from the Macmini to the Macbook Pro?
Ranjit
Mac Mini Mac OS X (10.3.8)
Mac Mini Mac OS X (10.3.8)

I don't have my MBP yet but from what I gathered the versions are the same and include Bonjour that allows you to share media and files from one OS X machine to another without actually have to copy the files from one computer to another. It should 'just work' as Apple says.

Front Row on 2nd Gen iMac G5

Does anyone know whether it will be possible to run Front Row on a 2nd Gen iMac G5 using an Apple Remote?
Hos does the Apple Remote work? If it's a Bluetooth device, I can't see any reason why it wouldn't work?
Unless 'Front Row' is a 'hard-wired' ROM application?
I like the look but I bought a 2G recently, which I think is the nuts...to be honest the built in i-Sight is of little interest to me...makes me think of internet cafes...and it's going to make the London Store even more of a foreign exchange student hangout.

It says front row and photo booth are included in the software bundled with the iMac. " More software
In addition, the iMac G5 comes with an incredible bundle of software:
iLife 05, which includes the latest versions of iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie HD, iDVD and GarageBand
Front Row
Photo Booth
iWork 05 30-day trial
AppleWorks
Quicken 2006 for Mac
2006 World Book
Nanosaur 2
Marble Blast Gold
Microsoft Office 2004 for Mac Test Drive "
I dont see why apple wont make that available for purchase for those of us who just bought that last rev Imac in May.

Anybody know if adding more ram to an iSight iMac will speed up front row

Just got a 20" iSight iMac (love it) with the base ram but as most people seem to be experiencing, front row seems a little sluggish. Just wondered if anybody knows if sticking another gig of ram in it would improve front row performance?

The answer is absolutely yes. I ran with 512MB for a while and I noticed it seemed like I was getting PageIns every now and again. Sometimes quite often if iPhoto or other big apps were open. A pagein is like virtual memory in OS9. RAM has to be swapped to disk to free it up to do another task.
Check out Activity Monitor- it'll give you an idea of what's going on. Don't get me wrong MacOS X is very good at managing its resources. However disk paging is a slow reality.
I upgraded to a total of 1.5GB of RAM a while ago. The difference is nothing short of phenomenal. All the big pauses in FrontRow are gone (occasionally iTunes still has to fire up if it was closed...2-3 Sec). I leave iPhoto open all the time and everything is always snappy. Daskboard is another big beneficiary- it's way better. I think 1.5GB was a good choice because I still use it all every now and again- perhaps 2 PageIns/Day, but not often enough to notice. Even upgrading to a 1GB would certainly be a big help but remember if you don't benefit from 1.5GB now you will in a year.
Cheers, Ed.
P.S. Now is a great time to buy, prices have stabilized, find a good sale and buy today- you won't regret it. I paid $96 total including all tax and shipping for a 1GB stick.

Front Row Using iPod Dock - Is it possible.

Hello there. I've been trying to find some info on the iPod Dock only because I've heard from some that it includes the Apple Remote, but can not seem to get this confirmed on either the apple store or amazon.
First off is it even possible to use the remote with the iPod Dock? From my understanding it is, so if that's the case wouldn't it then be possible to use Front Row on the Mac Pro since the IR port is now technically there?
I mean mainly I use my Mac Pro for doing work, but as the system is in my bedroom I think that it's kind of silly that I can't lay in bed at night and watch a movie without having to get up out of bed or something. That's really my only complaint about the system.. you pay a fairly larger amount more for being able to use a feature that's already built into the system the only means to access it is to purchase a separate ~$600 system.
Oh well sorry to rant off. Anyway, can you control Front Row on the Mac Pro using the iPod Dock?
Cheers
-rr

I'd like to be able to also do this with my iMac G5, the iPod dock connected to it and my Apple Remote. Unfortunately, a search of versiontracker.com finds lots of apps to extend functionality on Macs that already are supported (ie have built in IR), as well as apps that let you use Bluetooth devices as a clicker on any Mac.
Anyone got a suggestion?
iMac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.6) 1GB RAM, iSight

Front Row refusing to play my iTunes store purchases!

This never happened before, but when I go to play songs on Front Row which I purchased from the store, it says my computer isn't authorised and to enable it by going to iTunes, clicking authorise and signing in to my account. I've done this several times, and even whilst clicking onto every song I purchased.
What makes it stranger, is if I open iTunes, start playing a song I purchased and then go to front row whilst it's still playing, and click 'now playing', it shows the song and artwork and the song continues playing as normal. Now that I'm in front row, if I browse to that song and try to play it, it comes up with that message.
What is going on?!

James,
You may see my previous posts. I had the self same problem until I installed 10.4.9, but that also included the Front Row 1.3 update. Did you include that in your update? That may be the solution as my problem has now been resolved. Also if you look up and down this forum there are a number of threads with solutions such as deleting the .plist files. It seemed to work for others, but not for me.
Hope you sort it out
McD
17 inch iMac Core 2 Duo, 2GHz. 2nd Gen 4Gb Nano, 1st Gen 512mb iPod Shuffle. Mac OS X (10.4.7) G3 CRT Slot Loading iMac 600Mhz

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