FSR or FIS2R mystery board

i've been sold a board described as the MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R, but it is lacking the second set of sata ports, the promise chips, IDE 3 and the firewire ports. The closest board i could find online appearance wise is the MSI K8T Neo FSR, but i also seem to be lacking the second 3 audio ports.
The board has printed on it MS6702 Version 1 K8T Neo
I won't mention the supplier since they seem to have a good reputation generally and this may just be a glitch, but i'd like to be able to tell them exactly what it is they have sold me when i return it.
Is there a way of determining exactly what this board is, i'm concerned that drivers and Bios upgrades meant for the FIS2R may not be appropriate, despite it seeming to run fine.
if it is the FSR, what else am i losing out performance wise?
any advice appreciated, cheers.

the company has admitted that they have wrongly advertised the board and i'm still discussing with them how to proceed, to my satisfaction. Its a UK supplier.
I didn't notice the sound wasn't 5.1 either, until now.
from talking on other forums, alot of others have now realised the 'mistake' has happened to them as well- it doesn't just seem to be my supplier that has been supplying the wrong board and there seem to be alot of angry returns in the offing.
It was a cheap deal for the board as part of a bundle, so the exact price of the board was obscured somewhat, but advertising an expensive board at cheap prices , and then supplying a different, cheaper board is still unethical , at the very least, if not illegal. If i had wanted the board i have, i would have bought one advertised as such.
I think the lesson to be learned from this is if it seems to good to be true, it probably is, get a clear statement of the exact equipment before ordering, and check this closely, not just relying on the invoice or receipt, but physically.
as of my last check they are still calling the board the FIS2R in the online catalogue, if this doesn't change soon i think i'll have to name the supplier in order to stop others being caught out, and Inform the appropriate authorities regarding the Tranding Standards legislation they are breaking here in the UK.

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The only difference I can discover is that the fis2r board supports firewire.
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Bummer-- I missed the second to the last sentence of your original post.
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(but on two cases???).
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Now im guessing that it is due to a faulting drive... but the only thing is, is that when i push the reset button or restart it ... it starts normally....
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Hello,
I recently purchased an MSI 865 Neo2 FIS2R mother board. Here is how
I have it configured:
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flicker between black & blue around the same spot each time.
o From the login screen, when I chose my account, it would
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click, the screen go black, a second click and my screen would be fine
again.
o If I used the display properties control panel and chose the
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started it (assuming I didn't reboot). After than IE would crash,
Windows Explorer might crash or the system might spontaneously reboot.
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MAT and DOT are in the default setting and I have not tried adjusting
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If I booted in safe mode and uninstalled the display driver, everything
would return to normal and the system would run fine. I checked the
IRQs to make sure that wasn't a problem. I noticed a device from the
Intel Chipset and the VGA card were both sharing IRQ 16. I don't know
much about this (including how to change an IRQ) so I tried disabling
the Intel device (it dealt with the USB and I have no USB devices
currently attached). The system didn't seem to mind having that device
disabled. I reinstalled the display drivers, but the system behaved
exactly the same.
I also tried stepping down to the 44.03 version of the drivers but
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I also tried swapping between the GF3Ti500 and a GeForce4 MMX 440 The
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cards run fine in my old machine, an MSI NForce mobo, using the
45.23 drivers.
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any resources conflicts between the sound and the vga card.
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initialization of the video system. I tried the emergency recovery
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Hey Guys. Thanks for the help. I don't doubt that the NVidia drivers are fine, they're just part of the puzzle. Just to be sure, I got a new PSU. Here are it's specs:
+5V/40A, +12V/24A, +3.3V/32A, -5V/-0.5A, -12V/1.0A, +5V SB/2A, max load 530W.
As I mentioned earlier, I had tried updating the BIOS to 1.7, after which it sticks on the RTC test (see my original post for details). After installing the new PSU, it still stuck on the RTC test. I tried reflashing to 1.3, but now the memory test is failing. Does that seem right? The RTC test is after the memory test, so why should reflashing to 1.3 cause a memory failure? I'm assuming the reflash didn't work correctly. If I can get it to work (fingers crossed) I'll let you know what happens.

N00B here, looking for MAT/PAT answers and BIOS advice...

I just built my machine from uugotz last night using the FIS2R board, a 2.6C, the Zalman 7000, and some Knight Rider lookin sticks from Corsair (2 x 512MB XMS Pro 3200LL Twinx).
Pic for the curious: http://www.rememberphil.com/zig/northbridge.jpg
I immediately upgraded to 1.9, and set my RAM timings to SPD. I can get 2/3/2/6 just like Corsair's specs say, but only after upping the Vdimm to 2.7, which from what I've read on the forums here is SOP, so that's cool...
Here's what I can't figure out:
1. I can't up the performance mode beyond Fast without getting hit with the "timings too tight" message, even if I intentionally lower the . What gives?
2. Is MAT just the MSI implementation of PAT for copyright's sake, or is it something different?
3. I know what PAT is, but what exactly does the different "Performance Levels" do anyway?
4. What BIOS do you guys recommend? 1.8? 1.9? 1.9beta?
Thanks,
-ZIG

HELP!
I just ordered my first custom system that includeds a MSI 865PE Neo2 FIS2R mother board, P4 3.2 Ghz processor and Corsair TwinX 1024 3200LL memory.
I agonized over the memory selection and only settled on the above after reading numerous glowing reviews such as below from http://techreport.com/ja.zz?comments=5264
"I should share something with you about Corsair RAM that we learned this past week and confirmed in spades—Geoff, Andy, and I all three—over the weekend in our various testing endeavors. I mentioned in my 875P and 865 chipset reviews that I'd had some trouble getting Corsair's XMS3200LL memory working with its default timings on these new Intel chipsets, so I wrote Corsair to see what was up. Here's the answer I got from Robert Pearce, Corsair's Applications Specialist:
The problem is the chipset won't handle a tRCD (RAS to CAS Delay) of 2. We've done a revision of the SPD to make the LL's work on the 875 and 865 chipsets, the settings are now 2-3-2-6 by default.
We will, of course, warranty any modules with the older SPD but it should be noted that the end user can simply manually adjust the BIOS to the settings noted above.
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This is a minor snag for Corsair, I suppose, but the manual workaround works beautifully, and the RAM is still easily superior to the other DDR400 samples I've encountered. "
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After countless hours of testing there is no doubt that Corsair LL (Low Latency) PC3200 modules are the fastest and most compatible DDR memory modules to pair with your 865PE or 875P motherboard (regular CAS2.0 Corsair modules are just as good as LL/TwinX modules). Initially we had the most problems with Corsair's modules, but thankfully motherboard manufacturers were able to come through with solid BIOS releases that remedied all of these issues.
So the question is ... has this problem been fixed or are these review full of baloney? I have never overclocked, but the features that come with the MSI board would allow me to do so as a Noob. Have I wasted $300.00? Should I call the reseller and tell them to STOP and put a different type of memory in my system?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
TJNut

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