Fuji X10 Raw Files

Is it posible to find out if Apple intend issuing an update to Aperture 3 to process Raw files from a Fuji X10 camera.

Yes, you will lose a lot of resolution by using Adobe DNG or any other third party Raw Converter.
For best results, use the in-camera Raw Converter.
I suggest that you read and digest the following:
The dpreview Fuji X10 Review
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilm-x10/
Extract;
We appreciate in-camera Raw conversion in any camera, but with the X10, this control is absolutely crucial. Why? Because third party support for the X10's raw files is far from universal among the more popular raw converters on the market. And even worse, among the raw converters that do support the EXR sensor, the results are disappointing.
The inevitable downside to a non-standard sensor design is that it requires a different set of demosaicing algorithms for optimum results. In the raw converters we've used - including the SilkyPix version that ships with the camera - image resolution and fine detail are significantly worse than the X10's in-camera JPEGs. The converted Raw files appear very soft and are clearly not displaying the best image quality the sensor can produce. You can see this for yourself on both the Raw mode and studio comparison pages of this review. As it stands, you get significantly better image quality in terms of sharpness and resolution from processing Raw files in-camera than you do with external software.
Try using the X10 settings recommended in this article:
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/9060476058/fuji-x10-exr-camera-suggestions-for- optimum-performance.
Regards,
iPentax

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Raw update breaks camera support for Fuji X10 raw file.

Just a headsup, do not update!

Only Apple can asnwer the "Why?" questions, I'm afriad.
Aperture menu -> Provide Aperture Feedback and let them know you want it.

Fuji X10 raw image distorted

Adobe raw for the fuji X10 outputs a distorted image, the image is also cropped horizontally.
When opening a X10 raw file (.RAF) in adobe raw, the following unexpected results:
about 3% is cropped from horizontal field of view (symmetrical, both sides)
the image is then "stretched" to fit the horizontal resolution
the status indicates a dimension of 6144 x 4608 pixels (the open dialog showed 4000 x 3000)
the image is stored as 6144 x 4608 pixels
Attached are 2 images, 1 converted by the camera, the other by adobe raw.
Converted by camera:
Converted by adobe raw (version 6.6.0.261):
I find this quite annoying. Does anyone know how to fix this?
Thanks.

You are right!
Somewhere in the raw process with both silky and ACR converters pixels at each side are discarded. The pixels of about 1 cm of the yardstick (see picture) are not used. The camera's converter does utilise these pixels, BUT squeezes the image to a 0.96 : 1 ratio. This ratio is 1:1 longer focal lengths, the "pixel loss" is then nearly 0.
The pixels might not be output to the raw file or are discarded by the convertors. Perhaps this is done because of quality degradation of corner pixels / coverage at short focal lengths. I'll test to see if it is also related to aperture. NOT an adobe raw issue I should say.
Lower half of image: more pixels at the sides with jpg from camera
Image is squeezed when processed by camera
Original image, 28mm, F2.0

Fuji X10 RAW demosaic / sharpening quality

The Fuji X10 still has in Lightroom 4 this original poor sharpening with lots of reticulation.
We have been promised that this poor aspects which may result from an incomplete
demosaicing, would be scrutinized a little more carefully in upcoming releases.
It seems like this has not happened yet in LR 4.1 RC2 and knowing that the development team
has other priorities in complex demosaicing (Fuji X-Pro1), it may be good that the team also have a look
at this with Fuji to get this fixed.
Can someone in the development team can provide us some info/status on that?

The 4.1 update did not resolve the issue.
The DPReview in depth review has been published and, for the first time ever, I read that the camera generated JPG outperforms the developed Raw file by a large margin, mostly due the radically different non-Bayer sensor design.
I'm going on vacation in less than a week. I'll be shooting Raw+JPG knowing that, for the most of the shoots, I'll be going for the JPG version.
This is a serious issue for general workflow, where JPG version is meant to be treated as ready made preview while waiting for the Raw file to be demosaicized. Now the Raw and the JPG shouldnt be treated as a whole, because of the difference in size and quality. They become effectively two different shots. I can't rely on proper camera calibration for the Raw alone, so the look&feel of the photos I'll take with th X10 won't be as homogeneous as expected.
To tell the truth the X10 is just a walk around camera I bought for casual occasions and for my best half. My D300 will do the heavy lifting. I naively thought that I could have treated my X10 Raw files as any other NEF. Just normalize and add a bit of spice. I was wrong.
Let me state that I admire so much the work of Eric and his collegues. Lightroom is a piece of art. X10 support, however, is mediocre at best.

Fuji X10 RAW support on the way?

Are there any information regarding the support of the new Fujifilm X10 RAW files?
Unfortunately the RAF files are not the same like the X100.
There are already some rumors out there, that Apple is not going to support the X10...

I must admit - I am getting more and more tired of being an apple slave.
They published the latest camera update for aperture:
Canon PowerShot S100
Nikon 1 J1
Nikon 1 V1
Nikon COOLPIX P7100
Olympus PEN E-PL1s
Olympus PEN E-PL3
Olympus PEN E-PM1
Panasonic LUMIX DMC-FZ150
Sony Alpha NEX-5N
Sony Alpha SLT-A65
Sony Alpha SLT-A77
Still no RAW support for Fuji X10 - well done Apple!

Fuji RAF (raw) files

How do I use Fuji RAF (raw) files? What file do I need to download for my Photoshop CS5?
Message was edited by: backlash2

This is for the benefit of others who might find this thread.
There is a list of the latest Camera Raw versions that can be used with a particular major release of Photoshop or Photoshop Elements here, in the Camera Raw FAQ:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/311515?tstart=0
The Camera Raw versions listed in the FAQ (e.g., Camera Raw 6.2 for Elements 8) are the latest that can be installed in a particular editor version.
If that Camera Raw version is lower than the one listed at the link Trevor supplied above, then you'll need to either use the free DNG converter to convert your files to the DNG format before opening them in your image editor, or upgrade your image editor.
-Noel

Proper support for Fuji EXR Raw Files

There is still no proper support for Fuji EXR Raw files. On any Fuji X-series camera, the in-camera raw processing, including specifying options always outputs a far superior image that Adobe Camera Raw 6. I've been using an X100 for some time now, and have really gathered some great images with it. But Adobe Camera Raw fails miserably to understand how to process these files.
This is more of a complaint and feature request than a question, because I already know the answer. Adobe has not worked close enough, or at all, with Fuji to develop a Raw processor for the EXR pixel layout.
The EXR pixel arrangement offers new possibilities, especially the ability to take an HDR image of a moving subject, and without a tripod. The elimination of the low-pass filter allows for more sharpness, and finally the noise pattern is much more "film-like".
I've been using Adobe Photoshop for processing images for years, but have no compelling reason to upgrade without a proper conversion for Fuji RAW files.
Adobe: Please work with Fuji to bring world-class support for EXR Raw images.
Thank you,
William

Good day!
Adobe has not worked close enough, or at all, with Fuji to develop a Raw processor for the EXR pixel layout.
There seems to be a reason why Adobe has to reverse engineer RAW formats – the camera manufacturers don’t want their customers to use Adobe (and other) software to process their RAW files. (If their proprietary software gets better results then that’s understandable, but for how long are they going to support their own software?)
Now maybe Fuji is more cooperative than others, but do you know that for certain?
I've been using Adobe Photoshop for processing images for years, but have no compelling reason to upgrade without a proper conversion for Fuji RAW files.
If the new/improved features of Photoshop CS6 have no significance for the way you process, manage, edit and touch-up photographs feel free to stick with whatever version of Photoshop you use currently, but be aware that hardware/OS changes on your side may some day make that version inoperable on your set-up.
Also the upgrade path has been cut down to one version, if I understand correctly.
Anyway, this is a beginners Forum, feature requests might be better posted over at
http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family
Regards,
Pfaffenbichler

Fuji X10 RAW

Why supports iphoto on the new iPad the Fuji X10 RAW and a professional software like Aperture not?

I don't think iPhoto on iPad "supports" the Fuji X10. I think it's just displaying the embedded JPEG preview and not the actual RAW data.

Fuji XT1 RAW files

Has anybody any idea how soon Fuji XT1 RAW files will be able to be processed in Aperture 3

In the meantime let them you know you want the support by going to Apple - Aperture - Feedback
Don't know if it helps but can't hurt.
regards

Fuji x10 RAW support form july 2013 ?

Hello, I just find out that the raw file form my fuji x10 was not supported any more. But they was after raw update 4.05. Strange no ? Stranger the raw file disapear from iPhoto.

The list of supported cameras is here:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5371
fuji x10 has never been officially supported; the raw update 4.05 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1629
added
          Fujifilm X20
          Fujifilm X100S
          Fujifilm X-E1
          Fujifilm X-Pro1
It was an accident, that it also worked for fuji X10. Have you send feedback, that you want that "feature" back?

Major BUG in DNG conversion of Fuji x100s raw files.

I use an imac with latest os10.8.4 and I converted RAF =raw files from fuji x100s to dng format with DNG Converter 8.1.0.43.
I have never seen such a horrifically bad problem in 15+ years. PS user of very long time.
I attached 2 image files to the problem given by another member who was trying to use xrite.
I am posting here as it is a problem of interest to anyone who is using the x100s or considering it.
http://forums.adobe.com/message/5634178#5634178

The compatibility options are really to indicate which version of ACR you intend to use to read the raw file. Then the DNG Converter can decide whether it needs to do any additional processing to the file so that the (older) version of ACR can read it properly.
In the case of the Fuji X-Trans sensor with its 6x6 mosaic pattern (which requires a specialized interpolation routine for high quality results), the key distinction is whether DNG Converter performs the interpolation routine, or the older version of ACR performs the interpolation routine. If you choose "Camera Raw 7.1 and later" compatibility, then you're indicating that you plan to process the image using Camera Raw version 7.1 or later (e.g., ACR 7.4, ACR 8.1, etc.). These newer versions of ACR contain specialized interpolation routines for the X-Trans sensor, so the DNG file that is produced with "Camera Raw 7.1 and later" compatibility will be stored in the original mosaic form. When you read these files in ACR 7.1 and later, the specialized X-Trans interpolation routines will be used to process the files.
If you choose "Camera Raw 6.6 and later" compatibility, then you're indicating that you plan to process the image using CR 6.6 and later (e.g., ACR 6.7, ACR 7.0, ACR 7.1, etc.). Some of these older versions of ACR (such as ACR 6.7) do not have specialized interpolation routines for the X-Trans sensor. The DNG Converter understands this, and therefore performs the X-trans specific interpolation itself to produce linear RGB data, which is then stored into the DNG. So, the DNG file produced in this case does not contain the original mosaic data, but instead contains interpolated linear RGB data. The older ACR versions (like 6.7) can open this linear RGB data in the DNG directly, without having to perform any specialized X-Trans demosaicing (remember, this is important, because ACR 6.7 doesn't contain that specialized logic). This is also why the DNG files in this case are significantly larger in size compared to the images in the first case: they contain linear RGB data (3 color channels) instead of mosaic data (1 channel).

DNG profile with Fuji X100s raw files...

Hi,
I'm trying to make a dng profile for my Fuji X100s (I did the same recently for my Canon 5dII).
Because I shoot architecture and interiors, I profiled for daylight, tungsten, and flourescent light (I also did this for the Canon with success, much improved color, sepecially in fllourescent light).
With the Fuji x100s, the daylight profile was good, the tungsten seemed very desaturated, and the profiler kept giving me an error message for the flourescent light saying there was an extreme color cast on the grey patch and it couldn't create a profile (I tried 2850, 6500, and "both tables"). The grey patch on the flourescent card was reading (aprox) 3200K and +50 Magenta, so not off the charts, so to speak....
Why is this? Is it to do with the type of sensor in the camera (Xtrans CMOS)?
Thanks,
Alan.

JPGs are relatively small, and raw files relatively big, so if there is an issue writing data to the card where it corrupts after a certain amount is written, then the raw file could be the only file with enough data written to it thing that is corrupt. If every single raw file is corrupted the same way and none of the JPGs seem to be then it may be something else related to raw files on the computer, like the computer memory, or the drive that the camera-raw cache is on, or even a virus-scanner locking a file at the wrong time when it is written or read. The other thing to watch is that the raw files have an embedded JPG preview in them that may be ok, as well, and only when LR interprets the raw data will the corruption be visible. The embedded JPG preview is what you see in the Import panel grid and is also what you see momentarily just after you’ve imported, before LR has a chance to recompute a preview from the raw data.
To see both raw and jpgs in LR then you need enable the LR preference to treat raw and jpg files separately, for future imports so what you’ve already imported will stay the same, until you do a Synchronize on the folder Once you enable that preference then you can synchronize the folder to have LR reimport just the new (newly visible) JPGs.
The most important initial test to do is transfer the same set of files from the card to the computer more than once—you’ll have to disable the duplicate checking temporarily—and check if they have precisely the same corruption in each copy of the image or if it looks different. If it is the same then the data is likely bad on the card. If it is different, then the photos may be ok on the card and something in the transfer process or the computer, itself, may be bad, and there is hope you can mitigate the problem and get the uncorrupted raw data, somehow.

FUJI X100T raw files in lightroom?

Hi, i have the latest Lightroom CC.
i have the latest Fuji x100t, and i can't import or read the RAW files!
help.

jonathan+7007 wrote:
I took delivery of my x100T yesterday and am surprised to discover this. I had read so many discussions of different RAW processors for the files coming from other Fuji cameras (eg the immediate predecessor x100S and XT-1) that I had NO IDEA the files in this little machine would be so different as to need a dot-release.
This is a pain! Off to download Capture One.
jonathan7007
Wont do you any good, Capture One hasn't released support for the X100T yet.

Why is no support for raw file of fuji x10 from Apple ?

I have waiting for sometime for the update to support fuji x10 raw file from Apple. Please make it happen .

We can't. This is a user to user forum. You can sign up for a free online developer account on http://developer.apple.com/ and submit a bug report on http://bugreporter.apple.com/
You can request Fuji to do the same.
You can check the complete listing of RAW updates on:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4757
If you look there the x100 is supported, but no x10 for Lion. So the chances of x10 on Snow Leopard support is that much more remote, since Apple typically builds on their support with each new operating system.

Fuji x10 with EXR sensor - Is there RAW support in Lightroom 5

Hello,
I am about to purchase the Fuji x10 because now you can get them at a very reasonable price. I prefer shooting in RAW and I found out that there is a problem with the new Fuji EXR sensor. When I do an online research about this fine camera I read a lot about problems that RAW converters have with this special Fuji EXR sensor and the poor results you get when developing the Fuji RAW files. I can read in the Adobe list that Lightroom supports the Fuji x10 but does this mean that Adobe solved the problems with the EXR sensor in Lightroom 5?
Is there anybody who developes Fuji x10 RAW files with the latest Lightroom 5 version and can tell me what results she or he gets?
Shooting JPGs only wouldn't be a solution for me, so I really hope Adobe found a way to deal with this EXR sensor.
Thanks for every help and good advice.
Conroy

Those are new profiles created by Adobe to emulate the conversion that is done by the Fujifilm Camera firmware that processes the raw data in the camera. They are profiles for processing the RAW data. Adobe also provides a standard Profile specific to the x10 for the processing of the raw data, it is labeled "Adobe Standard".
The only way you will be know if you will be happy with the processing of Fujifilm RAW files by Lightroom is by doing what ssprengel advises, get some raw files from the x10 and test for yourself.
Looking at the camera "Review" of the x10 done in 2012 almost 2 years ago by DPReview I would say the ACR/LR processing or raw files from the x10 got a sub-standard review. Since that time ACR/LR have created new profiles and the only way to satisfy your self is to do some testing. The profile referred to above have been produced after the 2012 review so should provide improved results.
If you need some more info from Fujifilm users you can think about posting in the forum for Fujifilm Camera in the DPReview forum see the link below.
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/1020?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=mainmenu&utm_med ium=text&ref=mainmenu

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