Fuji X100 RAW conversion

Hello all,
I have noticed that the RAW files from the Fuji X100 when opened in Aperture (v. 3.5), compared to the in-camera processed JPEGS:
1) are significantly more saturated, especially in the BLUE channel (but also in the red one)
2) show a noticeable vignetting
3) show chromatic aberration (while the in-camera JPEG don't)
Did anybody else notice that? It seems clear that Aperture does not correct for vignetting and chromatic aberration (which is NOT good), but also tends to blow out the saturation for the blue....
thanks for any comment
giuseppe

What should be have been changed, Leonie?
The over saturated colors. I did not expect lens correction to be added by a simple raw compatibity update, but we have seen problems with oversaturated colors been caused by faulty raw updates, for example Camera Raw update (4.08) :
See My 2012 iMac is on acid NEF files stopped being displayed on iPhoto and Preview, and all pictures are turning red in my library for examples.
This problem was fixed with Camera Raw update (4.09), but it may have introduced a problem with oversaturated colors, as seen in the examples above, that is why I have been asking -hoping that a new raw compatibility update might solve any such problems.

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I read on the Aperture 3 support page that it supports Fuji x100 RAW photos. But when I just imported some, while it showed thumbnails during the import process, when the images themselves were imported, each and every one showed as a black box saying "unsupported format."
Any advice?
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What version of Aperture and what version of the OS?
The Fujifilm FinePix X100 ws included in Digital Camera Raw update 3.7

Major BUG in DNG conversion of Fuji x100s raw files.

I use an imac with latest os10.8.4 and I converted RAF =raw files from fuji x100s to dng format with DNG Converter 8.1.0.43.
I have never seen such a horrifically bad problem in 15+ years. PS user of very long time.
I attached 2 image files to the problem given by another member who was trying to use xrite.
I am posting here as it is a problem of interest to anyone who is using the x100s or considering it.
http://forums.adobe.com/message/5634178#5634178

The compatibility options are really to indicate which version of ACR you intend to use to read the raw file. Then the DNG Converter can decide whether it needs to do any additional processing to the file so that the (older) version of ACR can read it properly.
In the case of the Fuji X-Trans sensor with its 6x6 mosaic pattern (which requires a specialized interpolation routine for high quality results), the key distinction is whether DNG Converter performs the interpolation routine, or the older version of ACR performs the interpolation routine. If you choose "Camera Raw 7.1 and later" compatibility, then you're indicating that you plan to process the image using Camera Raw version 7.1 or later (e.g., ACR 7.4, ACR 8.1, etc.). These newer versions of ACR contain specialized interpolation routines for the X-Trans sensor, so the DNG file that is produced with "Camera Raw 7.1 and later" compatibility will be stored in the original mosaic form. When you read these files in ACR 7.1 and later, the specialized X-Trans interpolation routines will be used to process the files.
If you choose "Camera Raw 6.6 and later" compatibility, then you're indicating that you plan to process the image using CR 6.6 and later (e.g., ACR 6.7, ACR 7.0, ACR 7.1, etc.). Some of these older versions of ACR (such as ACR 6.7) do not have specialized interpolation routines for the X-Trans sensor. The DNG Converter understands this, and therefore performs the X-trans specific interpolation itself to produce linear RGB data, which is then stored into the DNG. So, the DNG file produced in this case does not contain the original mosaic data, but instead contains interpolated linear RGB data. The older ACR versions (like 6.7) can open this linear RGB data in the DNG directly, without having to perform any specialized X-Trans demosaicing (remember, this is important, because ACR 6.7 doesn't contain that specialized logic). This is also why the DNG files in this case are significantly larger in size compared to the images in the first case: they contain linear RGB data (3 color channels) instead of mosaic data (1 channel).

DNG profile with Fuji X100s raw files...

Hi,
I'm trying to make a dng profile for my Fuji X100s (I did the same recently for my Canon 5dII).
Because I shoot architecture and interiors, I profiled for daylight, tungsten, and flourescent light (I also did this for the Canon with success, much improved color, sepecially in fllourescent light).
With the Fuji x100s, the daylight profile was good, the tungsten seemed very desaturated, and the profiler kept giving me an error message for the flourescent light saying there was an extreme color cast on the grey patch and it couldn't create a profile (I tried 2850, 6500, and "both tables"). The grey patch on the flourescent card was reading (aprox) 3200K and +50 Magenta, so not off the charts, so to speak....
Why is this? Is it to do with the type of sensor in the camera (Xtrans CMOS)?
Thanks,
Alan.

JPGs are relatively small, and raw files relatively big, so if there is an issue writing data to the card where it corrupts after a certain amount is written, then the raw file could be the only file with enough data written to it thing that is corrupt. If every single raw file is corrupted the same way and none of the JPGs seem to be then it may be something else related to raw files on the computer, like the computer memory, or the drive that the camera-raw cache is on, or even a virus-scanner locking a file at the wrong time when it is written or read. The other thing to watch is that the raw files have an embedded JPG preview in them that may be ok, as well, and only when LR interprets the raw data will the corruption be visible. The embedded JPG preview is what you see in the Import panel grid and is also what you see momentarily just after you’ve imported, before LR has a chance to recompute a preview from the raw data.
To see both raw and jpgs in LR then you need enable the LR preference to treat raw and jpg files separately, for future imports so what you’ve already imported will stay the same, until you do a Synchronize on the folder Once you enable that preference then you can synchronize the folder to have LR reimport just the new (newly visible) JPGs.
The most important initial test to do is transfer the same set of files from the card to the computer more than once—you’ll have to disable the duplicate checking temporarily—and check if they have precisely the same corruption in each copy of the image or if it looks different. If it is the same then the data is likely bad on the card. If it is different, then the photos may be ok on the card and something in the transfer process or the computer, itself, may be bad, and there is hope you can mitigate the problem and get the uncorrupted raw data, somehow.

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Please could someone tell me how to get Elements 11 to accept RAW photos from my Fuji x100s? KentishRob

Hi,
Have you updated your Camera Raw plug-in?
In the editor, go to Help -> About Plug-in -> Camera RAW
You need version 7.4
To update, got to Help -> Updates and that should download and install the updates.
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Hi all,
This is my first post here. I searched the forum but did not find anything about this topic.
I use Aperture as my main workflow for processing and organizing my photographs. I use Fuji S3pro and S5pro, the S3 exclusively jpg, but S5 largely Raw (RAF-files). As you might know, Fuji RAW files are quite different due the the s- and r-pixels of the SuperCCD. Many RAW converters had initial problems with those files. I started using aperture in May last year (Aperture 2.0).
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Has anybody who uses Fuji DSLRS (or any brand) experienced similar problems, or does anybody know any remedy for this issue?
Any input is highly appreciated
Cheers
Gilbert

Gilbert
Many thanks for bringing this matter up and apologies for not getting back to you sooner on your first post here.
Just out of interest I took some test images on my S5 to see if I could assist you.
I took RAW images (RAF) with the dynamic range set to 100% at 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600 and 3200 ASA.
I then repeated the above, but with the Dynamic Range set to 400%
I was able to reproduce your problem.
So - I did a further test to narrow it down and find that the moment you go over 1000 ASA (i.e. from 1250 ASA and above) AND as soon as you use anything other than a Dynamic Range of 100% - then the images will be underexposed in Aperture.
But - if you stay under 1250 ASA, irrespective of the Dynamic Range - all is OK
Or - use JPEG rather than RAF as the issue does not appear
Not a solution - more a workaround
Hope this helps
Brian

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platen wrote:
have just bought a fuji xpro 1 and found that lightroom 3 doesnt support raw conversion. i realize that lightroom4 has, but i dont want to spend x amount of dollars when lightroom 3 meets most of mr requirements. does anyone know if or when lightroom will provide the raw conversion
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Poor raw conversion from Fujifilm X100 .raf format in Lightroom 3 and 4

I'm seeing very poor results when doing raw conversion from Fujifilm X100 .raf format. Who can I contact about this? Is there anything I can do?
See below for what is supposed to be a white curtain, lit by stage lighting. It results in a blown out blue channel, serious loss of detail, and very ugly gradient.
(Lightroom 4.2, Camera Raw 7.2 on LEFT --- Fujifilm X100 in-camera jpg on RIGHT)
And for more detail:
(Lightroom 4.2, Camera Raw 7.2 on TOP --- Fujifilm X100 in-camera jpg on BOTTOM)
(Lightroom 4.2, Camera Raw 7.2 on LEFT --- Fujifilm X100 in-camera jpg on RIGHT)

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Adobe does not shift the hue, but this makes the blue seem over saturated. Adobe’s conversion may be more colorimetrically correct, but less pleasing in this case of intense lighting that the sensor cannot accurately record.
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This is such a common question. The answer is always the same: We're just users here so nobody knows when this may arrive.
Look at the 'related threads' over to the right ==>
If you want to see other people have asked the same question :-P

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The EXR pixel arrangement offers new possibilities, especially the ability to take an HDR image of a moving subject, and without a tripod. The elimination of the low-pass filter allows for more sharpness, and finally the noise pattern is much more "film-like".
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Good day!
Adobe has not worked close enough, or at all, with Fuji to develop a Raw processor for the EXR pixel layout.
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Now maybe Fuji is more cooperative than others, but do you know that for certain?
I've been using Adobe Photoshop for processing images for years, but have no compelling reason to upgrade without a proper conversion for Fuji RAW files.
If the new/improved features of Photoshop CS6 have no significance for the way you process, manage, edit and touch-up photographs feel free to stick with whatever version of Photoshop you use currently, but be aware that hardware/OS changes on your side may some day make that version inoperable on your set-up.
Also the upgrade path has been cut down to one version, if I understand correctly.
Anyway, this is a beginners Forum, feature requests might be better posted over at
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