Full and delta inventory

Hi all,
I'm studing the new "System planning Deployment and BP Guide" of 10.3 beta.
I see that in a "Daily use test" they schedule "One full and three delta inventory scans per devices".
I did not know that in ZCM10 there were two types of inventory. Is it a new functionality? Anybody can explain to me some info?
Thank you

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