Full backup or Incremental backup????

We have Oracle 9.2.0.5
We have a Database in a Datawarehouse system.
We make full backup on saturday, it take 2 or 3 hours… but we need to do a backup daily because we have a transactional system to modificate some data and we have a repository of the reporting tool too..
We can make a night backup but we need to do a fast backup…
Our System Administrator said me it’s not convenient to do a incremental backup and He suggest a full backup… It’s correct? What’s your recommendations????
Thanks!

I think full backup is fine but here you have some redundant information. If you choose incremental backup then it will be faster and save redundant information.

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    >
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