Full Elastic HD Suspension...MEGA 651.

This is the first time I tried an elastic HD suspension setup. It's really a tight fit in this MEGA 651, but it's in there with a 1/2" clearance on all sides. I mounted the drive on a 4mm aluminum plate, which provides some thermal transfer/cooling. I used some fairly small elastic straps, from a drug store....I think kids use these things in their hair. (?)
The case is relatively thin aluminum, and if you mount the HD as intended, the whole case vibrates. This setup stops all that.... I suppose you could apply a similar setup in other cases.
This is the first time I've seen this technique in a SFF. Works good. :D

Looks nice Bluefront, I already enjoyed looking at your photoalbum earlier.
My HD hangs in a Zalman cooler. It was a tiny fit, but it doesn't touch the case at all. The rubber bands I attached for the vibration and I used some cable ties to get it on the right heigt. I actually saw this setup on the MP forum, and I decided to remove all the inside metal as well and achieve some less noise...
I am still dubbing to install an extra fan by the radio module to stimulate some extra air flow, for the temps it would be good but it has to be a real silent one. I will see, at the moment I have pretty stable temps...
Once in a few months though, I have to take the vacuum cleaner to get all the dust out of the heatsink cooler, it blocks all the air.
To demonstrate the setup I add some pics as well:
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Things to know before building a Mega 651 (and other things you should know afte

Okay, following hot on the heels of the "things to know" series on Mega 180 and 865, I thought I'd just chip in with this short post on what you should know before splashing out on a nice budget Mega 651
PROCESSOR SUPPORT:
The official list of supported CPUs can be found here:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/slim_pc/slm/pro_slm_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=431&kind=4
Basically the ageing SiS651 chipset does not support Celeron / P4 cpus above 533mhz, and does NOT support the newer "Prescott" core cpus
Celeron > 400Mhz FSB
P4 Northwood > 533mhz FSB (512kb L2 cache)
MEMORY:
Basically to add to what is listed in the 865 "things to know"; from my own experience of using MSI motherboards in the past, ALWAYS use good quality branded memory, as using cheaper "generic" types inevitably leads to major problems. I know for a fact that Crucial, Kingston and Samsung types work well in MSI motherboards, and you should be okay with other high-end brands like Corsair and Geil.
DRIVERS:
DON'T bother using MSI LiveUpdate! The drivers provided on the cd supplied will work, but if you wish to download the latest drivers, you will find them here:
http://download.sis.com/
Download and install the:
Chipset Software > SiS AGP (Gart) Driver
IGP Graphics Drivers > SiS650 and 740 series
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/dlac97-2.aspx?lineid=5&famid=12&series=8&Software=True
for Realtek AC97 Audio drivers
http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloads1-3.aspx?lineid=1&famid=3&series=16&Software=True
For Realtek Onboard Network interface
The modem drivers supplied on the CD should work, I really don't know much about them as I have never used them (sorry). Failing that, if you are connected to the internet, Windows Update should be able to find them for you.
OPERATING SYSTEM SUPPORT
MSI state that only Windows XP is supported on Mega 651 (and other Mega barebones). Other versions of Windows (98, ME, 2000) will work provided you have drivers for hardware devices, all of which are provided on the install CD or from the links supplied above.
You'll find that earlier versions of Windows won't have the drivers for the built-in card reader, so you may have to do a "google" search to get them. On my Mega 651, they are listed in Device Manager as "OEI-USB" devices.
If you haven't already got Windows XP then I suggest you consider upgrading at the earliest opportunity; Microsoft themselves no longer support Win 98 / ME and most new software is being designed to work only with Windows XP
Please note that MSI do NOT supply or support drivers for Linux; if you wish to attempt to install Linux on a Mega 651 (or other Mega PC model) you will need to obtain drivers yourself. The remote and LCD display functions will also not be available under Linux, unless some clever bod has developed drivers to do so.
MEGA RADIO AND LCD DISPLAY:
Download the Mega LiveUpdate for Mega 651 from here:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/software/swr/spt_swr_detail.php?UID=431&kind=4
This will update your MEGA Radio program, update the BlueBird HIFi module firmware and allow you to set a "greeting" displayed on the LCD display when you switch on HiFi mode. Apart from that the LCD display serves NO other purpose in PC mode.
After updating the firmware, you should power off your Mega 651, unplug the mains power cord for a few seconds then reconnect and restart for changes to take place.
OTHER MSI SOFTWARE:
If you REALLY must try out MSI Media Center III, it does work on the Mega 651, but I don't think the remote will work correctly.
Although PCAlert 4 has been reported to work on the Mega 651 - having read the numerous problems most users have, I don't advise installing it. If you do get it to work correctly, unlike on the Mega 180 and 865, it will not display temps or fan speeds on the LCD display, as this feature only works on the 180 and 865, as they use diferent LCD displays.
EXPANSION CARDS:
Same as with other Megas, you get 1 AGP and 1 PCI slot.
The AGP slot only supports up to 4x cards; a faster card will work, but only at 4x.
Space is limited, if you decide to fit a PCI TV tuner card, you will be limited as to which AGP card you can fit. A full length card is probably not recommended, and a model with a slimline (or even passive) heatsink would be best.
A better alternative would be to go for a VGA card with built in TV tuner, such as MSI TV5200-VTDF128 or an ATI Radeon All-In-Wonder card (ATI AIW is supported in WinXP MCE05)
ON-BOARD VGA
The SiS651 chipset is pretty old now, and the on-board SiS650 VGA is not up to playing any of the latest games, as it is only DirectX 7.0 compliant and does not support Hardware Texture & Lighting. However, it is adequate for playing back DVDs as it supports hardware acceleration (in PowerDVD for example), and general video output is decent. The maximum shared video memory size is 64mb.
The Mega 651 does NOT feature TV-out as standard. You can however either buy an AGP video card which includes TV-out feature, or the Mega TV-out card (availble in UK from www.dabs.com). Please note, this card is ONLY for Mega 651, and does NOT work with the 865 model. (The 180 does however, thanks to nforce2 chipset, support TV-out as standard)
ON-BOARD AUDIO
The Realtek ALC650 AC97 audio codec offers 5.1 surround sound (with suitable speakers of course ) as well as SP-DIF for digital output.
The sound quality is quite reasonable; i'm currently listening to MP3s through a set of Creative Inspire 5.1 speakers, and its certainly good enough for me.
There are three audio connectors on the rear, they default to:
GREEN - Front speakers
BLUE - Line In
PINK - Mic
To connect surround sound speakers correctly, you need to use the Realtek audio configuration tool (located in the Taskbar by the clock). Set the speaker config to 4 or 6 channel (5.1) and then click on the boxes to the right to configure the rear ports correctly
GREEN - Front speakers
BLUE - Rear Speakers
PINK - Subwoofer / Centre Speaker
NOTE: If you do decide you want to install a PCI soundcard, be aware that you will lose the Radio function in PC mode, and for audio output in Hi-Fi mode you will need to reconnect audio plugs from your soundcard to onboard sockets. The Hi-Fi mode and Radio only work with the onboard audio.
POWER SUPPLY
All the Mega series barebones come with a 200w PSU. Don't even think about upgrading to a higher output type, as the Mega PSU is a non-standard type. A standard ATX PSU will NOT physically fit inside the Mega case. Besides which, the Mega series have a special connector which powers the Bluebird hi-fi module and on-board sound when the PC is off. And there is a special Molex power connector for the CD/DVD drive, also for that to be used when PC is off.
WINDOWS XP MCE 2005
Media Center 2005 requires a DirectX 8.1 / 9.0 compliant video card with a minimum of 64mb RAM, 128mb RAM is recommended, however, for best performance. So you will need an AGP card, because SiS do not provide any MCE-compatible drivers. The TV@anywhere TV tuner (MS8606-10) and Mega TV Tuner (MS8606-40) are not supported by MCE05, because MCE2005 requires a TV card that will provide a direct MPEG2 stream, which a PVR card such as the Hauppage PVR MCE series can do (as a hardware card, MSIs card are software only and rely on drivers to do MPEG encoding), or a dedicated DVB-T card which receives an MPEG2 signal over the air.
MEGA 651 REMOTE
If you fit an MSI TV@anywhere card to your Mega 651, the Mega remote can be used to control the MSIPVS software, providing you use the remote receiver supplied with the TV@nywhere card. The Mega remote is designed to work natively with the MSI Media Center, and MSI Mega Radio programs only.
If you wish to program the remote to operate other programs within windows, then you will need a program called Girder, and the accompanying MSI plugin, kindly provided by nathan. please see his sticky thread for more info, about his plugin, and how to obtain Girder.
BROKEN HEATSINK MOUNTING CLIPS
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=96148.0
Phew, thats about it. If any other Mega 651 users think I've missed anything out, please feel free to tell me.
For other general hints and tips, look through the "things to know" posts regarding the 865 and 180.
MEGA 651 =

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PROCESSOR SUPPORT:
The official list of supported CPUs can be found here:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/slim_pc/slm/pro_slm_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=431&kind=4
Basically the ageing SiS651 chipset does not support Celeron / P4 cpus above 533mhz, and does NOT support the newer "Prescott" core cpus
Celeron > 400Mhz FSB
P4 Northwood > 533mhz FSB (512kb L2 cache)
your processor is not supported. please start a new thread if you need help

Broken DVD Drive cover on Mega 651 how do you reassemble it

HI, I have a Mega 651 that i use as a media centre under my TV, unfortunatly my baby who is now crawling decided to rip of the drive cover that flips down when the dvd is ejected.
I have reassmebled it, but cannot see where the 2 springs fit for the life of me?
if anyone knows anythging about this then please let me know
cheers
j

See the Labelflash User FAQ and get the software here.
-Jerry

Mega 651 TV-Out card problem

Hi freakz,
i have a Mega 651 with the original MSI TV-OUT card, but I don´t get any picture onto my TV.
I´ve already reinstalled the diasplay drivers. In windows I can´t find any configuration for the TV-out.
In the bios I´ve tested all settings.
My TV is switched on, so the card should recognize it.
Does anybody have the same card working? When does the picture appear on the TV screen? at the bios booting or at the Windows screen?
Which resolutions should I choose? I´ve tried 800x600 and 1024&768. Nothing.
Perhaps the card is broken, but first I will try everything so I can get shure.
Please... Can anybody help me with my problem or give me tips?
Thanx
Alex

Hi,
first of all, be sure I have tried everything, other cables (even shorter ones), ....
It´s the add on card for the Mega 651 which has a composite and a S-video plug.
I work with the chinch composite output.
In the bios I can choose between TV, CRT, or both.
Even if I only connect the TV, nothing appears on it.
Should I see the POST screen on the TV, or first when the display driver has been initialised?
Alex (still no pictures )

Wiggy's Mega 651 Project

This is from another board I hang on (www.redflagdeals.com), decided I might share it here.
I bought one of these units and have been lurking on this thread (which has been quite informative and helpful) and now it's time to chime in with my bit.
Here's my basic config:
Mega 651, BIOS v1.1, MegaRadio v1.00.61
Celeron 2.7G
640MB RAM (1x512, 1x128)
NVIDIA GForce4 MX 4000 128MB w/tv out, passively cooled (fanless)
Maxtor 6E040L0 40G
MSI 8332 CD-ROM 32x12x40
external USB floppy
external USB wieless B adapter Microsoft MN-510
On the bench i'm using a standard MS keyboard, Synaptics glidepad and a 15" IBM monitor
Set up in the living room I'll be using a wireless RF BTC keyboard/thumb mouse and a 32" TV
The initial set up went fine. The machine booted without trouble and recognized all the bits of a basic, stripped down hardware config.
The only issues coming out of the gate were cooling the system and managing the tight, tight space.
MSI's PC Alert 4 isn't worth a damn, so I'm using Speedfan. Even just idling with the unit cover off I'm getting 42°C on the CPU and 56°C (and the little flame icon) on the hard drive.
I decided to focus on cooling the hard drive first because it's essentially turned the Mega into an Easy Bake Oven. I've attached one of those dual fan aluminum frame hard drive coolers to the bottom of the drive. To make space for what is now pretty much a double height hard drive I've removed the hard drive and floppy drive mounting brackets from under the CD-ROM mounting slot. That frees up a huge amount of room for the drive, cables and air circulation. You can even almost get your hands in there to work! I'm staying with the card reader so installing a floppy in that space is not an issue. I'll also stick with a single drive and just upgrade to a larger one if necessary.
To mount the hard drive I picked up a piece of 1/2" aluminium angle at the local Home Depot and cut two pieces to match the length of the drive. I marked and drilled these brackets to match the screw holes on the drive. This is pretty simple work that only requires a hacksaw, a drill and bit and a file to clean up the cut ends of the brackets. The brackets are mounted flush to the top of the drive. This lets the drive hang down from the CD-ROM mount rails without any other screws or hardware required. Because the brackets are made of thin-gauge aluminum there's still plenty of room to easily install the CD-ROM.
The difference from the installation of the hard drive cooling is dramatic. The CPU now idles at 36-37°C and the hard drive at about 35°C . Speedfan manages the fans with minimums set at 50/50/20. The drive cooler is dead silent.
The next step is to install a supplementary fan to exhaust the hot air from the drive fom the case. Using some heavy duty velcro I've attached a 50mm CPU cooling fan with a molex connector onto the right hand side of the blue bracket that holds the Mega's stock CPU cooling fan. This lines up neatly with the exhaust grill on the case. You need a power pigtail to extend the reach of the Mega's power connector. I tried a bunch of different fans looking for the one that runs the quietest. The difference from fan to fan cooling wise wasn't significant, so whispering counts the most here for me.
Once that's done the system temps drop again. The CPU idles at 33-34°C and the hard drive at anywhere from 27-31°C. Aside from the simple mods I've described here all the rest of the system cooling is stock. Note that I've not mentioned system board temps, but then they've generally stayed with one or two degrees of the CPU temp. I can hear the cooling fan for the first time, but it's not out of line. A higher end fan might run more quietly. I just picked from what I had to hand.
I want to add a fan to the video card, but that'll have to wait until I find something that fits properly and has a nice low profile so that it doesn't obstruct the PCI slot. I've got a couple fans that fit the bill except for the fact that heatsink butts up against one of the components of the video card which would be a no-no. So I either find a different fan or grind down a wee bit of one of those I have in hand.
All the PCI slot fans I've looked at are too wide to fit in comfortably and they end up costing you your PCI slot in any case, so I wouldn't consider them an option.
I may end up grabbing one of those laptop cooling pads with the multiple fans to sit the unit on, but I want to give the existing config a workout first.
These were pretty simple mods. They were easy to do with basic tools and materials and didn't cost much. They didn't involve cutting my case to bits or mounting extrusions on it so it still looks sleek and clean. The drive fan runs about $15 Cdn, $5 for the aluminum angle, $5 for the CPU cooler fan, $3 for the power pigtail cable, $5 for velcro. Cheaper if you've got some of these parts lying around.
That's a long enough post for now. I'll talk about some of the other bits in another post.

Okay. Got some pics that tie into my previous post.
Here's the Mega. I'm using an external USB floppy and USB wireless B adapter. Not much space inside the case, but this thing's got USB ports coming out of it's ying yang, so why not? That's the Compag SFF I'm retiring that the Mega is sitting on.
This pic shows the hard drive with a cooling fan installed. Fifteen bucks at CWO and the colour even matches the trim on the Mega's case! Too bad you can't see it once it's installed. Note the homemade mounting rails installed on both sides of the drive. They're cut from a piece of aluminum angle from Home Depot and have a couple of holes drilled in them to match the screw holes on the hdd.
Next up, here's the drive installed. The aluminum rails sit on top of the frame of the CD-ROM mounting bay. Note there are no screws to hold the hdd in place in the bay. Once you install the CD drive on top it'll hold the works firmly in place. The stock hdd & fdd mounting brackets have been removed from the case. The hdd and fan combo hang in the open space below, but there is still a ton of room down there for cables and air circulation.
Finally, here's a side shot showing the installation of a supplementary exhaust fan on the right hand side of the case. It's mounted using a velcro strip across the top of the fan and on the inside edge of the Mega's stock cpu fan holder. It lines up nicely with the existing grill on the Mega's case and draws hot air from the cpu's heatsink and the hdd and exhausts it. Note that you'll need a molex extension pigtail to be able to reach the Mega's power connector.
In this image you can also see the hdd and attached cooler fan in place. It doesn't show real clear here, but everything between the bottom of the orange hdd fan and the top of the RAM sticks is open space.
That's my work to date. Straight forward enough, cheap and makes a big difference to the operating temp of the system.

MEGA 651 dual display?

Hi,
My setup is MEGA 651 with AIW ATI Radeon 8500, Win XP. As a monitor I am using Sony Grand Wega 42" LCD TV. Works great. I am using 2 connections from my video card, one is S-Video (display is somewhat blurry) and DVI (very sharp and looks like screen of a laptop). My tv allows to choose to display from different sources and those 2 connections are treated as such.
The limitation is I can only use 640X480 resolution, which is fine for movies, internet (wish I could have better resolution here).
Few days ago I got game SIMS for my kids with few expansion packs. Problem now is that they can not START the game with the resolution of 640X480, the minimum for the game is 800X600.
I found a temporary solution to use a regular monitor to start the game (I unplug DVI connector from tv and plug a regular 17" monitor into the video card), and then I switch the S-Video source on my tv to play it.
I tried to find any info if tv can support more that 640X480 but non found. If I switch to higher resolution I can not boot or if I boot in Safe Mode screen goes nuts until I reset to lower. Another option is to leave second monitor, but to use onboard VGA connector, but I can not find any info how I can use both AGP and onboard video simultaniously. Is there setting in the BIOS to enable. it seems that onboard video works only if there is no other video card installed.
Thank you for help.

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how I can use both AGP and onboard video simultaniously. Is there setting in the BIOS to enable. it seems that onboard video works only if there is no other video card installed
you can only use onboard VGA or VGA card in AGP slot - you cannot use both
have you checked for any updated drivers for your video card? i use a Geforce FX5200 in my Mega 651 for TV-out, and I can select up to 1024x768 for TV resolution (though obviously its not a really useable resolution on my CRT TV, connected with composite video) though i prefer to leave it at 800x600
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I am using 2 connections from my video card, one is S-Video (display is somewhat blurry) and DVI (very sharp and looks like screen of a laptop). My tv allows to choose to display from different sources and those 2 connections are treated as such.
if you are only using one display (your 42" Wega ) then i don't understand why you need to have both types of connections connected to it. if the Sony has a DVI input, that is the only option you should use, as even s-video is inferior to that by a mile

Mega 651 am/fm tuner powers on but pc doesn't

Can anyone help me out?
The thing has been working fine for over a year...but started randomly not turning on. Now it won't turn on at all. If you unplug it and plug it back in, the tuner will power up...but when you hit the pc button it goes dead.
I am running a 2.8Ghz Northwood processor with 512MB RAM.
Any ideas?
Thanks!

My MEGA 651 had the same symptoms :] , I though that it was due to the PSU, so I connected it (with some modifications) to a new 400W PSU. Now the PC switches on sometimes, but when I switch it off it won't switch on again immediately, you need to wait for several minutes. Now I am inclined to think that the problem is with the motherboard, which means that 651 is going to a dump soon :(

Media Centre III and MEGA 651

Does anyone know if the Media Centre III program will work on the MSI MEGA 651 as well as the 180? Im going to try it tonight, i just wondered if anyone else had had a go?

I've installed it on my mega PC 651
I'm running 2.6 cele, 80 gig HD, 512 of ram, on board sound and vid.
It works fine..transition screens fade in and out a bit choppy tho.... i think it's a problem with the software tho

Mega 651 will not recognize multi card in Win XP Pro

I have been using my Mega 651 since the begining of January 2004 and have been a satisified user with only a few gliches since reciently.
My Configuration
Celeron 2.4 400 Mhz FSB
512 Meg PC 2700
WD 160 GB Hard Drive
IO Magic DVD +-RW/+-R DVD drive
and most reciently (about 1 month ago)
ATI 9200 Video Card
Dual Boot with Windows 2000 Pro and Mandrake 10.0 (95% W2k)
Until just last week I had very few gliches except for an anoying problem where the CD drive would stop working. The symptoms were the drive would not eject automatically and on reboot, the post would not discover the IDE devices. I found that if I removed the cover and reset the data cable, then the system would get back to normal.
But this is not why I am writing here.
Last week the system got into a very strange startup loop. It would boot into windows Pro and during the startup, would reboot, and then restart. I tried to boot into safe mode and did not have the problem so I determined that the problem was software and tried to do a repair from the installation CD. That did not work so I decided to do an upgrade to Win XP Pro. When installing Win XP I discovered a new and unusual problem. That was that the system would pause for about 60 sec when booting after finding the mother board and before reporting on the IDE devices. It still pauses like this. I also found that the reboot on startup problem continued so I decided to install Win XP Pro clean, on the hard drive, in its own windows directory. The new install went very well and I am in general pleased with win XP. But I do have two new problems now.
1. Windows insists on identifying the multi card device as a floppy, I tried to remove the device drivers and install a removable HD driver but XP rejects the removable devices and insists on reinstalling the floppy driver. So I can not access my CF or SD cards.
2. I still have a long pause before the post reports the IDE devices, the hard drive and the DVD drive. Both devices seem to function OK when up and running
Any comments on either problem.
Thanks,
Charlie Girdosky
My first try at upgrading to WinXP Pro

I don't have the 651, but the 865. The 865 came with a Mega disc and required installing the Intel drivers from the disc. Since the 865 is driven primarly by USB, windows would attempt to assign a driver to motherboard and devices, but would inevitably be wrong. Only by installing the Intel drivers were things found properly.
Is there any chance there are such drivers with the 651 as well?

Different heatsink/fan for MEGA 651?

I'm new here so go easy on me. I did search but found little info. I'm looking for a different/better heatsink for a MEGA 651. I know there is a problem finding a retension clip that fits.....but I found an older socket 7 heatsink that fits/works. It's all-copper with a 60mm fan on top blowing down. But I'd like something better/bigger. I have removed both drive cages, so I have some extra space for a taller heatsink.
Is anyone using a heatsink other than the stock aluminum model?

always read the stickies as your question may have already been answered before
in your case it has, here:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=96148.0

Mega 651:Why not 1 single receiver for all ?

I have a Mega 651 with Celron 2,6 Ghz. proc. in it.
Also Maxtor 120 Gb harddisk 7200 rpm.
I use the internal Sis VGA card.
With 512 DDR 2 ram
Included is 1 IR transmitter (gris color).
I bought also a MSI TV @nywhere Master card. With IR transmitter and IR receiving eye included.
Why am I NOT able to use the internal IR receiver eye that is build in the Mega 651 for controlling my TV from Intervideo MSIPVS??
Why do I need to place the add. IR receiver eye. The one that comes with my TV tuner card?
Is there no way I can control my TV with my IR control from my Mega 651 and with the INTERNAL IR eye in my Mega PC?
Pretty stupid.

This are the details from my MSI MEGA 651 deluxe
Technische Daten:
Prozessor Sockel
Intel Pentium 4 - Sockel 478 (keine CPU enthalten!) bis 2,8 GHZ FSB400 oder FSB533 auch alle Celeron Prozessoren
Chipsatz
SIS 651
Front Side Bus
@400/533MHz
Arbeitsspeicher
2xDDR DIMM (kein Speicher enthalten) PC266/333 max 2GB
Steckplätze
1xPCI,1xAGP (4x)
Erweiterungseinschübe gesamt
1 x von vorne zugänglich - 5.25" x 1/2H (keine Laufwerke enthalten)
1 x Intern - 3.5" x 1/3H
OnBoard Komponenten
Sound: Realtek ALC650 5.1 Sound
VGA-Grafik SIS 720 32MB shared
LAN-Kontroller 100mbit (dsl-fähig)
IEEE1394/Firewire und USB2.0 (6x)
Abmessungen/Format
202(B) x 151(H) x 320(T) mm
Front I/O:
• Mic-in/Head-Phone
• 2x USB
• IEEE 1394
• Optical SPDIF-in
• 6 in 1 Card Reader integriert
Rear I/O:
• COM / VGA / Parallel
• 2x PS2
• LAN on-Board
• 2x USB
• Optical SPDIF-out
• Speaker-out/Line-in/Mic-in (AC`97 Codec, 5.1ch)
• Modem
• PSU: 200W PFC
Hi-Fi Modus
Voll funktionsfähig auch ohne PC-Aufrüstung:
• FM/AM-Radio
• Audio-CD
• MP 3-CD
• Equalizer & CM

Mobile INTEL CPU supported in MEGA 651 ?

Hello,
will it be possible to insert a Mobile INTEL CPU, i.e. Mobile Intel® Celeron® processors, SL6VH, 1.3V, 1.80 GHz, 400MHz, 478pin PPGA, in the MSI MEGA 651 ?
I t seems the socket and the bus speed is ok.
But will the BIOS support this kind of CPU ?
Thanks for help.
Regards Bernd.

I ve got an 1,7 Ghz Mobile Pentium 4-M in my Mega 651, it definitly runs cooler then my older 1,7 Ghz Celeron, wich had 128 kb cach, not like pentium 4M wich has 4 times more cach (512 kb). Without modding the CPU, it runs at 1,5 (1,48) volt. Making the "bent pin trick" it runs on an extremly low volt - 1,08 (1,10) volt. This means lower heat output, then it's rated 30 Watt (wich it has at 1,3 volt, and 1,7 Ghz). The CPU now runs at 1,2 Ghz. At 1,1 volt I can overclock it to 1440 Mhz, but it runs safe, only at 1404 Mhz (at 4x117 mhz fsb). At 1404 Mhz I can even look at High definition video with PowerDVD. I also tried the 133 fsb trick, , isolating the Pin AD6 with nail polish, and it works fine at 1,48 volt and 1596 Mhz, and overclocked even at 1,7 ghz (142 Mhz fsb). But of course in this case the processor generates more heat. At 1200 MHZ it works without turning on the CPU fan, wich turns on only after hevy cpu loads (for example looking on DVD-s) You can browse the internet without the fan would turn on - you can hear only the sound of the hard disk, and the psu fan. I have got only one tiny problem, somtimes when I turn on my PC, after booting, the cpu fan does not stops, I dont know why, and it runs constantly, until I stop with Speedfan. I dont know why is doing this. Not allways, only sometimes, and I cant find out why...

AGP TV tuner on Mega 651

I have just got hold of a mega 651 with a P4 2.4, I was looking to install an AGP tv tuner such as this one leaving the PCI slot free for a wire less card. Has anybody had any experience of this sort of setup, or would I be best to use a PCI tv tuner, and USB wireless adaptor. I don't need the graphics card features, only really doing it for neatness, and already have a PCI wireless card. Thanks for your time.

Stu's hit it on the head with this. Go for a good USB2 external unit, make sure you read reviews and buy a USB2 as most of the USB1.1 devices can't transfer data quit enough given a picture.
Look for a good remote, good software.
I have a transcend USB2 TV - Box , good picture but remote isn't the best.
reasons to do this
heat in the PC and being an external box it doesn't get as much interference

Problems with NEW MEGA 651 PC

Put the MEGA 651 together today. The heat sink /cooler was a pain in the butt to get installed but finally got it. Also purchased the MSI DVD/CDRW Drive since a disclaimer on the box said other brands may not work... ok.
Installed it all and guess what. Yep the MSI CD unit doesnt open the door cause it hits the case! Not only that but the MSI CD Eject button in behind and below the cutout making it almost impossible to even attempt to get the cd tray to eject! Then the damn thing bounces off my finger pushing the eject button and goes back in. If I push the button with a pencil the tray comes out 3/8" and hits the side of the case cause the cutout doesnt line up.... Now thats planning! Not to mention I wonder what happens when it finally comes out and you put a cd in it. It goes back in does it SNAG the spring loaded door and jam or does it scratch the cd in the drive?
It seems to me I need to remove the door and drill a 1/4" hole in the case so I can put something in there to press the eject button.
Also the green light on the card reader and the clock stays displayed after I turn the PC off. Also there is still power to the NUMLOCK light on the keyboard so I ASSUME it is NOT TURNING ALL THE WAY OFF.
I haven't got a chance to install an OS yet since I have to resolve the CD issue before I can even get a CD in the thing.
On a positive not I like the radio at least it works!
Im soooo confused....
:-?

That's strange that it hits the case. I bet you have it mounted wrong. Try moving it forwards/backwards in the case until it ejects correctly. I had mine too close to the door and it wouldn't open... moving it back solved the problem.
Now, I don't own a 651, but if it's like the 865, then you don't push the button that's located on the CD Player, instead you push the eject button on the computer case itself.

Heatsink for Mega 651

Hi!
I got my hands on a 2:nd hand MSI Mega 651, which I want to complete as soon as possible. Only one problem. It came without any CPU heatsink. What kind of fittings is this? Specific for the Mega´s? The spacing of the holes look a lot like the Xeon standard. Is it the same? If not, where could I purchase a new heatsink? I can´t seem to get any here in Sweden.
Another question is if the 651 would work OK with a 3.06Ghz and a ti4600? Or would it be to much heat for a barebone?

the heatsink is a custom design for this barebones. you should try and contact the person you bought it off, it should have been supplied with it
check the cpu support list, mega 651 only supports P4 up to 533FSB (not prescott at all), celeron to 400fsb, read my mega 651 sticky above
if your seller cannot give you the heatsink, then you might try your local MSI office to see if they can

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