Full load to Delta conversion of standard extractor

Hi Gurus,
Data have been loaded to Infocube from standard extractor( LO LIS) as a full load.Now I needs to convert full load to delta.Kindky throw your ideas, what are the points I have to be considered .
Thanks
Siva

HI,
For getting the Delta u have to first Initlize the Cube. the option is available at InfoPackage level.
After that only u can get the Delta.
that is only the Way.
Assign Point if it helps.
Regards,
sandeep

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I am loading the data form R/3 to BW with full load by using the generic data sources.
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Some what I have got the solution, that is going RSO2 there generic delta will be available
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Hi,
1.) based on these fields you will get delta records from r/3 to BW.
3.) safety interval :more clearly--- lower limit corresponds to last extraction
time and upper limit specifies to the current extraction time. This is regarding the date .
Check :
how to generic delta
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/84bf4d68-0601-0010-13b5-b062adbb3e33
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oss note 368739.
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oss note 392876
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0FI_GL_4 Safety Delta
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Firstly you are stating that you are loading from BW to BW. How are you doing it ? Are you doing through a datamart ?
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RSSM_SET_REPAIR_FULL_FLAG.
1 more question,if run that function module,will it change the existing loads in Repair full mode?
or it will load the total data again.
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Yes
3 it will change the existing load to repair full load,
Yes
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Yes
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Hi,
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Since am not familiar with BW request clarity as to how to achieve the following :
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How to make this effective in our existing process chains.
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What exactly needs to be done to change a full load into a delta load.
Also do not wish to have any data loss happening.
We run the schedules on a particular process chain for BW around 1 am.
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What exactly are the steps to be followed.
Precautions to be taken
So that we have the correct data load and no data is lost - while doing this.
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do initialization with data transfer / or without data tranfer ?
The make it delta?
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Or
since in our scenario,
daily basis it is full load.
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if anyone could advise.
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Hi,
Kindly look at following links as well
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/44/9821620553053de10000000a1553f6/content.htm
Generic Delta
If a field exists in the extract structure of a DataSource that contains values which increase monotonously over time, you can define delta capability for this DataSource. If such a delta-relevant field exists in the extract structure, such as a timestamp, the system determines the data volume transferred in the delta method by comparing the maximum value transferred with the last load with the amount of data that has since entered the system. Only the data that has newly arrived is transferred.
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You are right & your view of data is also correct
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Here Q is
Which fields are in KeyFields in DSO Design
If
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I am trying to convert ODS from Full Load to Delta Load.
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